Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 7:29 PM
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Good Lord willing in the fall of this year I will be in Montana on a cow elk hunt. Now the fun part....what handgun to use???
FA 454 FA 475 TC 45/70 358 JDJ CVA Optima V2 50cal.....leaning heavily on this one
Bigger ain't always better....according to who???
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 8:05 PM
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I would take the gun I was most comfortable with so I could relax and enjoy the sights and experiances of an elk hunt in the west. I would lean towards the versatility of the 358JDJ. It has the velocity to make longer shots easier. However... If the challenge of hunting with a revolver or muzzle loader speaks to you then I would encourage you to stick to your guns and make it happen. GOOD LUCK to you whatever you choose and I hope you enjoy your hunt!
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 8:18 PM
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I would lean towards the versatility of the 358JDJ. It has the velocity to make longer shots easier. Matt makes a good choice in the 358 and all I can add would be to carry either the 454/475 on your belt just in case she`s in spitting distance.....
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 8:23 PM
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I would lean towards the versatility of the 358JDJ. It has the velocity to make longer shots easier. Matt makes a good choice in the 358 and all I can add would be to carry either the 454/475 on your belt just in case she`s in spitting distance..... X2!
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 8:40 PM
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The .50 smoke stick is an easy 100 yard tool and it would make the cool factor a little higher. If you bathe regularly, surely you can get within 100 yards.
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 8:55 PM
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After rethinking my response, I will add this- The two cow elk I was successful on were taken at about 60 yards and 75 yards. So, getting close is definitely possible, and doing an elk with a revolver pushes the cool factor way up.
Last edited by cmnash; 02/11/2018 9:21 PM.
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 9:06 PM
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The smoke stick just seems like that would be cool, but on the other hand so does the FA's. I will battle this for several months....LOL
Bigger ain't always better....according to who???
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 9:19 PM
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Personally I would take the .454 or .475. The multiple shot capability is with considering and there are plenty of capable bullets available for both calibers.
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02/11/2018 9:26 PM
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I would take the CVA Optima V2. I have one and love it out to 100 yards or a little farther.
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02/11/2018 9:31 PM
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Im such a "planner" I have already decided on the bullets for each gun...except the for the smoke stick
454 250 XPB or 265 Swift 475 385 Cast HP or 275 Speer 358 250 Hornady SP 45/70 300 Barnes Original
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02/11/2018 9:38 PM
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Randy M
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As recommended above, my pick is the 358 as the primary and 454 as a back up. Oh and the 265 swift as the bullet for 454.
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 9:40 PM
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I have used a FA .475 (400 gr. XTP) on bull elk, to my complete satisfaction, and would recommend it. The scoped .358 JDJ in a pouch , as a back up, if you can't get close enough to use the .475, would also be a good idea. I'd use a 200 gr. Hornady spire point.
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 9:44 PM
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All good choices, I expect you will end up taking 2 of them. Good luck on your elk hunt. A "Planner" always has a back up!
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 11:22 PM
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Im such a "planner" I have already decided on the bullets for each gun...except the for the smoke stick
454 250 XPB or 265 Swift 475 385 Cast HP or 275 Speer 358 250 Hornady SP 45/70 300 Barnes Original Just shoot the 265 swift in the smoke stick. 😎
It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger squeeze.
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/11/2018 11:25 PM
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Andy, my friend, I'd go with the 358 JDJ as my primary, and the 454, as my belt gun. Really, no matter what you choose, you'll be in great shape.
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/12/2018 12:27 AM
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Take them all and use the one that fits your hunting area.
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02/12/2018 12:46 AM
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.358 with a revolver on your hip, as others have said. It'll cover all your bases, but mainly because I've been enamored with the .358 JDJ forever!
John
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/12/2018 5:04 PM
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Gregg Richter
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I have used a FA .475 (400 gr. XTP) on bull elk, to my complete satisfaction, and would recommend it. The scoped .358 JDJ in a pouch , as a back up, if you can't get close enough to use the .475, would also be a good idea. I'd use a 200 gr. Hornady spire point. X2 (2 bulls with the 400 XTP) Only down fall of the muzzleloader is the second shot (if needed) takes a while to load. So either way I would for sure have a revolver on my hip. I have killed 2 bulls with my Encore 209X50 ML, one with a T/C 320 gr. Maxi-Ball and one with a 295 grain Black Belt. Both worked fine. If you can use sabots in Montana (a no-no in Colorado) you can load a Nosler Partition. On second thought, here I go reading in-between the lines...not sure if that is good or not if you are hunting in a centerfire rifle season, then it is ok to use a "lesser" weapon such as archery equipment, a handgun or a muzzleloader; and therefore sabots I THINK would be legal. They just are NOT LEGAL in ML season.
The safe bet of course would be to ask a Game Warden. Also make sure the area you hunt is not a "Weapons Restricted Area." Some areas in Montana have cartridge restrictions on handguns.
Sorry...it's just the "outfitter/guide" in me that wants to be sure the hunter is legal so nobody gets in trouble.
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/13/2018 11:45 PM
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Wheelgun primary (s) and SS backup
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Re: Cow elk hunt
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02/15/2018 12:02 AM
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I would take two and carry one. If in your shoes I would go with the FA in 475 and have the 454 back at camp if anything happened during the hunt to make the 475 not usable ( highly unlikely ). I like the revolver as it is so easy to carry and that is one of the things that attracted me to handgun hunting. I also have three FA so am biased towards them.
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