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10/22/2018 3:27 PM
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Looking for input on building a new handgun. wanting to shoot out to 400 yards. Mostly for a fun gun but will probably take a deer or two with it as well. I will probably go with a MGM barrel on an encore frame. I have been looking at 308 based cartridges like the 7mm-08 and 338 federal.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/22/2018 3:56 PM
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/22/2018 4:08 PM
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Why not the .308? Ammunition is cheaper and more available than the others, and offered in an almost endless variety.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/22/2018 5:07 PM
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/22/2018 5:52 PM
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Why not the .308? Ammunition is cheaper and more available than the others, and offered in an almost endless variety. And known for accuracy.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/22/2018 7:30 PM
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In that case: .308 Winchester 1-10 inch Twist Rate 168gr Hornady TAP Precision ELD-Match ammo.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/22/2018 8:04 PM
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I was going to say 30-30 until I saw that your "medium Range is 400 yards! I have nothing to offer except that I adore the .308 Win. in a short barreled rifle. Plenty of accuracy and power, and very efficient in short guns. Plus, since you're not a handloader, you'd have a hard time finding a cartridge with a better variety of outstanding loads setting on Walmart store shelves.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/22/2018 8:11 PM
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My boy will be taking his first deer this week with a handgun, hopefully. He will be using a .308 Win bolt action SP.
So, I vouch for it enough to let him take his first handgun deer with the cartridge. 😁
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/23/2018 12:06 AM
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In that case: .308 Winchester 1-10 inch Twist Rate 168gr Hornady TAP Precision ELD-Match ammo. This! Plus a good muzzle brake.
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10/23/2018 12:41 AM
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/23/2018 1:04 AM
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I was going to say 30-30 until I saw that your "medium Range is 400 yards! I have nothing to offer except that I adore the .308 Win. in a short barreled rifle. Plenty of accuracy and power, and very efficient in short guns. Plus, since you're not a handloader, you'd have a hard time finding a cartridge with a better variety of outstanding loads setting on Walmart store shelves. Haha ok LONG RANGE... Sorry my dad shoots long range rifles and long range to him is 1200 + haha.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/23/2018 1:49 AM
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I shoot 1,760 yards (1 mile) with a .308 Winchester. So, there is that.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/23/2018 1:53 AM
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The 3-O-Wait can't shoot that far....and hit what your aiming for, especially with factory ammo 
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/23/2018 1:54 AM
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/23/2018 2:33 AM
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If you are going Encore 308, 6.5 Sweed, 6.5 Creedmore, 260 Rem .I am partial to the 6.5 calibers but shoot a 308 as well and I second the muzzle brake. Makes them louder but lots easier to shoot.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/23/2018 3:02 AM
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6.5 Creed with all of it's factory ammo options would be a good choice too with less recoil.
147 grain Hornady ELD-M with 7.5 or 8T barrel (and a good brake)
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/23/2018 10:59 AM
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I agree. The Creedmoor is another good factory load option.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/24/2018 12:55 PM
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Ok so it looks like the majority of you agree on the 308. What length barrel and what kind of muzzle brake?
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10/24/2018 1:02 PM
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Oh and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from Precision Armament. Bad blood with them. My family use to own their parent company.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/24/2018 6:59 PM
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15" barrel. Suggest you try it without a break first, as the recoil is not that bad with bullets up to 150 gr.. I had my 30/06 Encore Pro Hunter Magnaported with the Dual Traps configuration, which really tames the muzzle flip when shooting the 180+ grainers.
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/24/2018 8:42 PM
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Ok so it looks like the majority of you agree on the 308. What length barrel and what kind of muzzle brake? 15? MGM barrel Holland?s Radial Baffle brake
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/30/2018 2:17 PM
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Ok so it looks like the majority of you agree on the 308. What length barrel and what kind of muzzle brake? 15? MGM barrel Holland?s Radial Baffle brake What bi-pod are you running on your SP Handguns?
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Re: Medium Range Speciality Pistol
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10/30/2018 2:46 PM
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Ok so it looks like the majority of you agree on the 308. What length barrel and what kind of muzzle brake? 15? MGM barrel Holland?s Radial Baffle brake What bi-pod are you running on your SP Handguns? Harris BR (Swivel version) with notched legs.
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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