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1911 45acp for Deer? #195039 10/22/2018 3:32 PM
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Looking for advise. I just acquired a new full size 1911 in 45 acp. Would this (ETHICALLY) take a white tail deer at close range? 30 yards or less? If so what shot would you look for lung/heart or more of a shoulder shot? I will be using factory JHP loads.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: Artemis444] #195041 10/22/2018 4:05 PM
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Absolutely! Lung/heart based on your information.


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Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: Sawfish] #195056 10/23/2018 12:02 AM
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I've taken close to a dozen deer with a .45 experimenting with bullets. Best seems to be 200 gr. Horn. XTP. I've done shoulder and lung shots with it out to 60 yds. Lungs run, shoulders don't move much.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: wvhitman] #195062 10/23/2018 12:14 AM
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Thanks! That is very helpful!

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: Artemis444] #195174 10/27/2018 6:20 AM
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Although not what you are intending to shoot, but more for a comparison. . .I hunt with a Springfield Armory V16 and have taken several deer and countless hogs at ranges of 35 yards or less. My load is a 214 grain bullet I cast myself, Lee 452-200-RF over 7.5 grains of CFE Pistol. This load travels at 1100 fps and is wicked accurate and wicked deadly on critters! If you keep your shots close and you can hit your mark, the 45ACP will do you a good job. Companies such as Buffalo Bore and CorBon produce some hard hitting factory ammo. . .just find a well constructed bullet that your gun likes to shoot and become proficient with it, you'll be set. Good luck!

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: OFFSHORE] #195233 10/29/2018 8:58 PM
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Illegal in Indiana or ir would be my choice. I use a 10mm instead (Glock 20) saving for 1911 like Razor Dobbs


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Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: Artemis444] #195244 10/30/2018 3:15 AM
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I plan to "experiment" with the Barnes 185 gr factory loads out of my Glock 21 this year
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You should be solid with a good JHP out to 50 through the heart/lung.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: SChunter] #195246 10/30/2018 3:51 AM
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I want to experiment with the Buffalo Bore 185 gr Barnes load. It's cooking right along out of my 1911. Hoping to whack something this winter.


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Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: MrMcPorkchop] #195248 10/30/2018 1:48 PM
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Thanks im going to run to the LGS and pick up a verity of ammo and do some range test to see what ammo my 1911 shoots the best.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: Artemis444] #195639 11/10/2018 11:06 PM
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Power Pistol powder is very good for warmer loads, I got a 230gr XTP cooking along at about 1100 fps from a 5" 1911.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: 45BBH] #195645 11/11/2018 2:52 AM
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SCHunter and MRMCPoarkchop would you like to see what happens with the Barnes Bullet ? The 185 gr? I was using for awhile and found good accuracy. Had my mind changed. I can post a Pic on the bragging board if you want to see the results of a lung shot.

Let me know.

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Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: cherokeetracker] #195667 11/12/2018 5:17 PM
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 Originally Posted By: cherokeetracker
SCHunter and MRMCPoarkchop would you like to see what happens with the Barnes Bullet ? The 185 gr? I was using for awhile and found good accuracy. Had my mind changed. I can post a Pic on the bragging board if you want to see the results of a lung shot.

Let me know.


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Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: MrMcPorkchop] #195668 11/12/2018 5:27 PM
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Lets see!

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: cherokeetracker] #195688 11/13/2018 8:54 AM
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 Originally Posted By: cherokeetracker
SCHunter and MRMCPoarkchop would you like to see what happens with the Barnes Bullet ? The 185 gr? I was using for awhile and found good accuracy. Had my mind changed. I can post a Pic on the bragging board if you want to see the results of a lung shot.

Let me know.



I would agree. That was a poor performing bullet for sure! You post that pic on the bragging board!

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OK Pic is up loaded to the bragging Board.

I checked MY Colt this weekend with the 200 gr XTP and I am satisfied with the results as far as accuracy. The XTP is what I wish to try soon.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: cherokeetracker] #195709 11/14/2018 3:50 PM
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You might check out the 45 super as well it's just different brass a few springs and a new firing pin stop and you can ramp it up pretty good I stopped far before I had any pressure signs but it wasn't comfortable o shoot off a bench really gave your wrist a wrenching lol best part is done right and it'll still run medium 45 acp loads so I practice with moderate cast loads and hunt with hammers

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I still believe that a good bullet is still the biggest problem with hunting with the 45 ACP. JMHO.
Standard, +P, or Super Loads, we need a good bullet.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: cherokeetracker] #195715 11/14/2018 10:59 PM
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 Originally Posted By: cherokeetracker


I still believe that a good bullet is still the biggest problem with hunting with the 45 ACP. JMHO.
Standard, +P, or Super Loads, we need a good bullet.


Cherokee, I agree. Wish we had a 230 gr jacketed bullet designed for hunting with the 45+p or Super. I've had pretty good results with a 250 gr wfn, but I've wondered how the Lehigh Extreme Penetrators would perform.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: cherokeetracker] #195744 11/16/2018 8:00 PM
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 Originally Posted By: cherokeetracker


I still believe that a good bullet is still the biggest problem with hunting with the 45 ACP. JMHO.
Standard, +P, or Super Loads, we need a good bullet.


Understood - I was hoping that the 185 with a bit more velocity than the 230's would be ticket. Gonna give her a whirl this weekend as it stacks them out of my G21 (uncanned).

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: SChunter] #196044 11/23/2018 12:32 PM
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From my experience, using a 185 or 200 is like trying to push a nickel through something. You need the weight of a 230 or something similar...to get penetration. I agree with SChunter.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: Huntrick] #196199 11/27/2018 5:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Huntrick
From my experience, using a 185 or 200 is like trying to push a nickel through something. You need the weight of a 230 or something similar...to get penetration. I agree with SChunter.


I haven?t had a chance to test it yet due to health reasons but I want to try out the Hornady Critical Duty 220 +p on a deer or small hog.


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Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: MrMcPorkchop] #196213 11/28/2018 4:55 PM
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I've wondered if the 250 grain for the 45lc would feed I've never had any to try but o far my 1911 will eat everything it still function with my cast plinking ammo even after the super conversion

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: BushytailBasher] #196217 11/28/2018 5:16 PM
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 Originally Posted By: BushytailBasher
I've wondered if the 250 grain for the 45lc would feed I've never had any to try but o far my 1911 will eat everything it still function with my cast plinking ammo even after the super conversion


250 gr. WFN have fed with few problems in 3 different 1911s set up for 45 Super. No modifications to the guns except springs and firing pin stop. The last round in a mag will sometimes jam.

Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: Seminole Wind] #196220 11/28/2018 5:31 PM
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I run both the 255gr LEE RFN and a Keith 'copy' of a 255gr SWC in 3 different .45's and a .460 Rowland and have had very few feeding problems. None of the 1911's have been particularly 'doctored' to make 'em feed better. In fact, one is a Ithica WWII MilSurp. Good mags will help a lot.


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Re: 1911 45acp for Deer? [Re: Russell] #196226 11/28/2018 6:53 PM
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I've thought about trying some heavyish cast my gun will feed swc with no issues as long as the case mouths don't have lube or lead hanging on them.... Of course I have good mags in a quality gun as well but it's eaten everything I've ever fed it with no complaint as long as it's loaded got enough to cycle fully. Not fun to shoot off a bench with the full power loads though it's got plenty of muzzle flip


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