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309 JDJ BRASS #11936 12/14/2005 6:38 PM
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Do any of you guys know if you can form 309 brass from 444 marlin brass. I tried a couple but the brass just collapsed.

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Re: 309 JDJ BRASS [Re: wapitirod] #11937 12/14/2005 7:02 PM
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The 444 Marlin is the parent case for the 309 JDJ. Take a close look a the case mouths (444 Marlin) they need to be perfectly round. If not they almost aways colapse when you run them into the 308 Winchester die. I run mine though my 44 mag expander die to true up the case mouths. Try not to bell them. A slight bell doesn't seem to hurt but I try to avoid it.


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Re: 309 JDJ BRASS [Re: ClayFHT] #11938 12/14/2005 7:07 PM
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do I need to run them through a 308 die before I use the 309 die?


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Re: 309 JDJ BRASS [Re: wapitirod] #11939 12/14/2005 7:44 PM
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yes, and then fireform. The shoulder angle on the jdj die is too sharp, that is why yours are collapsing.


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Re: 309 JDJ BRASS [Re: jb HHI 7241] #11940 12/14/2005 10:10 PM
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THANKS, THAT MAKES SENSE


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Re: 309 JDJ BRASS [Re: wapitirod] #11941 12/15/2005 2:14 AM
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When you run them through the 308 sizer die, adjust it down just a bit at a time.....keep adjusting down until your action will just close on a formed case.......if you push the shoulder too far back, the brass will stretch in the web the first time it is fired.


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