Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Holy cow! Congratulations, Rey!
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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That is a very heavy rack! Good buck and good shooting!
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Well done from start to finish. Thanks for all the effort to share with us.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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I'd take that bullet on a date.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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He looks good and dead to me!
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Rey, you got yourself a humdinger if a buck! He will look fantastic on your wall.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Rey, you got yourself a humdinger if a buck! He will look fantastic on your wall. KIM: HE IS 1 OF THE TOP 3 BUCKS EVER FOR ME AND HE IS GOING BETWEEN THE OTHER 2. HARD TO RATE DEER, OTHER THAN BY SCORE, BECAUSE EACH ONE IS DISTINCTIVE, BUT THIS IS ONE WAS VERY SPECIAL.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Fantastic deer Rey. I was one that was worried about driving this bullet too fast. I've been impressed so far with the accuracy but have not used them on game. Was anxiously waiting for your results. Actual "field" tests trumps speculation every time. Thanks for reporting the details on the bullet performance. All fears I had using the DCHP on deer have been alleviated.
Again great buck and congratulations on a fine hunt.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Seems like there is no .452 260gr boolit listed. l got a truck
load of 260gr Speers for a SONG off GunBroken awhile back Never
loaded them in 45 Colt... l have shot bunches of them in BAM
BAM, my 460S&W.
Favourite load is a ''REDUCED'' one found in Speer. 30gr of 2400
gives me app 1600FPS.
The 260 Speers were pulled boolits too... Sorry for Speer to drop
its 260
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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That's one great deer and the Speer performed great. I killed a small buck (15yds) and a doe (35yds) last year using the 44Spl. 200 grain Gold Dot at approx. 850fsp. Bullet went thru both and I cut the skin and recovered both bullets. Good mushroom and great performance. Again that is one heavy antlered deer. Congrats!
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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SHOT A NICE SIZED AOUDAD EWE @ 66 YARDS ON THE 28th WITH THE HUNTER AND RECOVERED THE BULLET, HEADING HOME TODAY FROM THE RANCH, WILL POST A PICTURE OF THE RECOVERED SPEER DCHP BULLET AND MORE INFO AFTER I GET HOME.
"ADAPT OR DIE". I USE ALL CAPS, NOT BECAUSE I AM YELLING, BUT BECAUSE IT IS AN OLD HABIT FROM MY ARMY DAYS, PLUS IT IS EASIER TO TYPE AND READ.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Wow! what a buck!! I would have been shaking like a leaf the whole time!Congrats!btw my .41 deep curls are chonographed at 1580 fps with a labradar still going around 1250 at 100 yds. they don't show any signs of breaking up.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Congratulations Rey, look forward to seeing the results on the ewe.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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I SHOT THIS NICE SIZED AOUDAD EWE, PROBABLY 100 - 125lbs LW, @ 66 YARDS ON SATURDAY 12/28/19. I WAS USING THE RUGER BISLEY HUNTER IN 45 COLT, SCOPE SET AT 5x, AND 27grs OF 296 UNDER THE SPEER DEEP CURL 250gr HP. THE SHOT IS SLIGHTLY DOWNHILL AND THE TERRAIN IS UNEVEN AND WHAT LOOKS LIKE A PERFECT BROADSIDE SHOT USUALLY IS DISTORTED BY THE ANIMALS FOOTING IN THE UNEVEN TERRAIN. ALSO, TENDENCY IS TO SHOOT HIGH AT THESE SHORTER DOWNHILL RANGES. BULLET HIT HER IN THE SPINE, BEHIND THE SHOULDER, SHE DROPPED IMMEDIATELY, CRAWLED 12 YARDS AND DIED FAST. BULLET WAS JUST UNDER THE SKIN IN THE OFFSIDE (THE POINT OF THE KNIFE BLADE IS POINTING TO WHERE THE SLUG IS). MOST OF THE BLOOD, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF IT, WAS FROM THE ENTRY HOLE, WITH A LITTLE FROM THE MOUTH AND/OR NOSTRILS. THIS IS WHERE SHE FELL, AND ALL THIS BLOOD CAME OUT OF THE ENTRY HOLE. I AM "THINKING" THAT THE BULLET BLEW BONE SHRAPNEL DOWN INTO THE LUNGS CAUSING MASSIVE HEMMORAGHING. PHOTOS OF THE RECOVERED BULLET, RECOVERED JUST UNDER THE SKIN, RETAINED WEIGHT 166grs. PRETTY GOOD TEST FOR THE BULLET, SHORTER RANGE (66 YARDS IN A STRAIGHT LINE, BUT MAYBE ONLY 60 YARDS OF GRAVITY) AND WENT THRU THE SPINE. WHEN I CUT THE BULLET OUT I FELT AROUND FOR SHRAPNEL AND ALL I DUG OUT WERE PIECES OF BONE. NOTHING HERE THAT WILL KEEP ME FROM USING THESE BULLETS IN THE HUNTER FOR DEER, AOUDAD EWES, JAVELINA AND HOGS.
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"ADAPT OR DIE". I USE ALL CAPS, NOT BECAUSE I AM YELLING, BUT BECAUSE IT IS AN OLD HABIT FROM MY ARMY DAYS, PLUS IT IS EASIER TO TYPE AND READ.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Looks like the bullet worked!
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Consider using the Speer 300 gr Gold Dot..I think that you'll be impressed
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Consider using the Speer 300 gr Gold Dot..I think that you'll be impressed AND JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS CATCHING UP ON PROJECTS "UP POPS" A 300gr GD/DC HOLLOW POINT.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Bisley Hunter appears to be working out nicely. Let us know how the 300 grainers work out in testing.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Rey, you just cost me some money. My local gun shop got one of those Hunter's in, and I just couldn't resist. Trigger is not bad for out of the box, but I'll probably put in a spring kit later. As far as projects go, do we ever catch up? Congrats on some very fine animals and some excellent shooting. I'm glad the Gold Dot is working out for you, and I look forward to more reports soon!
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Wow, what an incredible buck! I have a flat top Blackhawk 45 Colt coming. I'll have to give the Speer a try.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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TODAY (3/29/30) I GOT TO CHRONY THE 250gr SPEER DEEP CURL/GOLD DOT BULLETS OVER 27grs OF 296 AND FED 155M PRIMERS IN STARLINE CASES, 85 degrees, 4 SHOTS AVERAGED 1,330fps IN THE 7.5 INCH BISLEY HUNTER, ABOUT WHAT I WAS EXPECTING.
BEEN WANTING TO COMPLETE MY BULLET TESTING WITH A SHOULDER SHOT ON A 100lb PLUS HOG, NO LUCK YET, BUT IF THE CV OR SOMETHING ELSE DOESN'T GET ME, IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Thanks for the update Rey, I was wondering what that load was running. I kept thinking 1400fps or more, but I guess not. Keep us updated if you get that hog.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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25 gr IMR 4227, 250 XTP = 3 shot 1 hole groups @ 50 yards in both of mine WHAT IS THE MV OF THAT LOAD? DO YOU GET ANY UNBURNED POWDER? MV runs around 1250 with no indication of raw powder. Muzzle flash is relatively calm.
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Check the Speer Number 15 Manual, top of page 873: Ballistic Notes. Not everything of importance can be found on the Internet. Books. Amen!
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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I?m a little late to this party, but I just wanted to say congrats on a great buck and great shooting also. Interesting discussion on bullet choices too.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BLOODY OTHER GUNS MOST OF THIS YEAR SO THE 45 COLT BISLEY HUNTER HAS BEEN ON VACATION. TODAY (10/31/20) I WENT TO MY RANGE ON THE RIO GRANDE TO CHECK SIGHT IN AT 105 YARDS ON A 10 INCH FA 454 (USING OLDER WINCHESTER 300gr AMMO), A 10 INCH CONTENDER IN 45 COLT (USING A 275gr PC'ed SWC HP OVER 19grs OF 2400, CHRONO's 1,375fps) AND THE BISLEY 45 COLT HUNTER. FOR THE HUNTER I HAD MY 250gr GD/DC LOAD OVER 27grs OF 296, PLUS SOME 265gr FUSION BULLETS, SOME SEATED OVER 26.1grs OF 296 AND SOME OVER 27grs OF 296. OFF A REST, AT 25 YARDS, WITH SCOPE SET AT 3x, ALL 3 LOADS WERE ABOUT THE SAME ACCURACY WISE. GOING TO CHRONO THE FUSION 27gr LOAD TOMORROW MORNING, THEN DECIDE WHAT TO USE THIS DEER SEASON. ALL OF THE FUSION LOADS EXTRACTED EASILY, AND WHEN THE BRASS WAS RESIZED ALL FIT EASILY INTO MY SUPER TIGHT JRH BISLEY.
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"ADAPT OR DIE". I USE ALL CAPS, NOT BECAUSE I AM YELLING, BUT BECAUSE IT IS AN OLD HABIT FROM MY ARMY DAYS, PLUS IT IS EASIER TO TYPE AND READ.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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WENT TO MY RANGE ON THE RIO GRANDE THIS MORNING. BRIGHT SUNNY MORNING WITH THE SUN COMING FROM OVER MY LEFT SHOULDER. NORMALLY IN THESE LIGHT CONDITIONS I CANNOT GET ANY MV READINGS, SO I USED SOME LIGHTS ZIP TIED TO THE UNDERSIDE OF THE SUNSCREENS, SOMETHING THAT WORKS REAL WELL INDOORS, IN DARKER CONDITIONS, BUT SEEMS TO RESULT IN "WEIRD" READINGS WHEN THE SUN AND THE ARTIFICIAL LIGHTS COMPETE FOR BULLET SHADOW TIME.
I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING IN THE 1,300's AS THE GOLD DOT LOAD CHRONO'ed 1,330fps. I SHOT THE 27gr W-296 LOAD UNDER THE 265gr FUSION 8 TIMES IN THE BISLEY HUNTER AND GOT READINGS "ALL OVER THE PLACE", AS FOLLOWS: 1114, 1539, 1324, 1257, 1069, 1312, 1190 & 1320, ONE OF THOSE "WTF" EXPERIENCES. AM THINKING THE 1324, 1312 & 1320 READINGS ARE VALID AND THE OTHERS "WHO KNOWS". THEN I SHOT AT THE 6.5 INCH ROUND SWINGER AT 105 YARDS, 3 SHOTS WITH THE GOLD DOT LOAD AND ALL HITS, THEN 3 SHOTS WITH THE FUSION LOAD AND ALL HITS.
THE FUSION BULLET SEATS SHALLOWER AND HAS A LONGER NOSE. AFTER YOU SHOOT 1 OR 2 ROUNDS WITH IT THE NOSE ON THE NEXT ROUND's BULLET IS DEFORMED SOME WITH THE LEAD ON THE NOSE SMEARED BACK SOME. SINCE I BELIEVE THE GOLD DOT AND FUSION LOADS ARE ALMOST TWINS IN ACCURACY AND MV, FOR NOW, BECAUSE OF THE WEIRD NOSE DEFORMATION ON THE FUSIONS, I AM GOING TO STICK WITH THE GOLD DOT LOAD.
BTW, WHEN FEDERAL LOADED THE 265gr FUSION BULLETS IN THE 454, THEY WERE RATED AT 1350fps SO I AM GUESSING THEY ARE PRETTY SOFT.
"ADAPT OR DIE". I USE ALL CAPS, NOT BECAUSE I AM YELLING, BUT BECAUSE IT IS AN OLD HABIT FROM MY ARMY DAYS, PLUS IT IS EASIER TO TYPE AND READ.
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Re: 45 COLT RUGER BISLEY HUNTER: THE JOURNEY BEGINS
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Thanks for the report Rey, I've been following with great interest. I haven't done much work with my Bisley Hunter. I have only developed one load using 335 grain WFN's and HS6 doing a little under 1100 fps. Might try it on a doe, as we have a ton of deer this year.
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