 10MM expansion test
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06/03/2020 1:39 AM
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All of the videos I have seen on 10mm bullet expansion are shot from seven yards or less but I wanted to try something closer to a hunting situation so I shot these from 25 yards, nothing scientific just milk jugs full of water but it gives me some idea of what the bullet is doing at further distances. All were shot from a 6" Kimber Target, all are 180gr HP's over 7.3gr's of CFE Pistol. I have no idea who makes this bullet for Everglades ammo. I found all four in the fourth gallon of water. I gotta get a chronograph. Their retained weight Hornady XTP 175.4gr's Federal HST 178.8gr's Speer GD 179.1 Everglades 163.3 
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/03/2020 3:37 AM
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Thanks LH... takes some of the guesswork out of bullet selection..
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/03/2020 12:22 PM
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reflex264
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I have used the 180XTP on deer with great results.I can tell you that at a bit over 1300fps it expands at 71 yards. That is the farthest kill I have with it. From doe at 71 yards:  
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/03/2020 12:36 PM
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Great thread! And based on what I've seen on YouTube, your testing criteria is better than most. Much more realistic distance than what is usually used.
That's some impressive expansion on the bullets and good weight retention, other than the one that broke into pieces. Hope you get a chance to test them all during hunting season.
Thanks for posting this.
John
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/03/2020 2:58 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I am a firm believer in testing at distances you will actually be using.
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06/03/2020 3:26 PM
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That's very impressive performance at 71yds...
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06/03/2020 5:56 PM
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That's very impressive performance at 71yds... It pretty much acts like a mid range 41 magnum. I have killed deer with the same bullets at 40 S&W velocities. Knowing your limitations is key. His bullet test reinforces what I have seen from these loads. That is part of knowing your limitations.
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/04/2020 3:07 AM
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[quote=reflex264]I have used the 180XTP on deer with great results.I can tell you that at a bit over 1300fps it expands at 71 yards. That is the farthest kill I have with it. From doe at 71 yards: That`s great performance...
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/04/2020 3:08 AM
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I have had good luck with Sierra 165gr.on 2 pigs one at 85 yards. And one at 40 yards both pass throughs.
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/05/2020 3:21 PM
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All of the videos I have seen on 10mm bullet expansion are shot from seven yards or less but I wanted to try something closer to a hunting situation so I shot these from 25 yards, nothing scientific just milk jugs full of water but it gives me some idea of what the bullet is doing at further distances. All were shot from a 6" Kimber Target, all are 180gr HP's over 7.3gr's of CFE Pistol. I have no idea who makes this bullet for Everglades ammo. I found all four in the fourth gallon of water. I gotta get a chronograph. Their retained weight Hornady XTP 175.4gr's Federal HST 178.8gr's Speer GD 179.1 Everglades 163.3 Do you know the muzzle velocities?
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06/06/2020 2:20 PM
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He stated that he?s ?gotta get a chronograph?......
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Based on total trigger pull weight, my trigger finger has lifted well over 200 tons....
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06/06/2020 3:30 PM
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/09/2020 4:39 PM
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I'm guessing the Everglades bullet is designed to break up like that?
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06/09/2020 10:47 PM
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I'm guessing the Everglades bullet is designed to break up like that?
Been searching around on the internet and I believe they are made by a company called ZERO Bullets, cant find any info on if they are supposed to be frangible or not.
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/14/2020 5:11 PM
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I think they are made by Zero, and I think they are intended for 40 S&W velocities.
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06/15/2020 2:09 PM
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reflex264
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I will be doing a lot of 10mm testing in the next month. Nearly completed another custom in 10mm. I will be glad to post results.
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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Re: 10MM expansion test
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06/16/2020 1:50 AM
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Think you could try some other weights? I'd be interested to see how some 155s and 200s perform.
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06/16/2020 12:29 PM
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I already have some 155s to test. Which 200 would you like to see tested?
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
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06/17/2020 12:00 AM
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Chance Weldon
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Got any 200 grain XTPs? If not, don't worry about it.
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06/17/2020 10:56 PM
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I will throw them in the mix.
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
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