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Sad Day In Virginia #19861 04/16/2007 5:38 PM
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Thoughts and prayers go out to famailies and victims of todays shooting at VA Tech .I hate to see things like this both as a public service provider and an avid shooter. The fallout from this will be far and wide. Makes me scared to send my owwn kiddds to school somedays.

Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: medic404] #19862 04/16/2007 11:01 PM
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May the shooter rote in hell!


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Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: medic404] #19863 04/16/2007 11:27 PM
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I don't know how this could happen,Va. Tech is a Gun-Free zone. Imagine if someone had been carrying.


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Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: SCOTTx88] #19864 04/17/2007 1:10 AM
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This is why I feel that every responsible person should carry.

God bless the innocents.

Boy, when they release the ID of his weapon of choice be ready for the outcry to ban it, and everything remotely similar. You can kiss your high capacity mags goodbye as well, hell any capacity. We did not need this right now, and the coward killed himself besides.

Yes, a sad day(s) indeed.

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Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: s4s4u] #19865 04/17/2007 11:57 AM
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I read this morning where two handguns were involved. We all know what that means.
People are asking why these tragedies are happening in schools. To my way of thinking gun free zones are easy picking grounds for cowards with guns.

Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: Recoil] #19866 04/17/2007 2:56 PM
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A South Korean student! Not only do we give foreigners money and benefits that I don't even qualify for, we also allow them to buy firearms as soon as they get any sort of of ID card.

Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: ranger140892] #19867 04/17/2007 4:14 PM
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That slime ball put us in a real pickle. There will be a loud public outcry for more gun control. I have been reading world reaction and it is not very favorable for us gun owners.

Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: Recoil] #19868 04/17/2007 5:26 PM
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You're right. However, smart lobby guys on our side will point out the obvious.....Want control? Stop giving our freedoms to foreigners while taking ours away.

Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: ranger140892] #19869 04/17/2007 8:09 PM
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Now they say he "legally" purchased those firearms from a gunshop in Virginia. He passed the NICS check and everything. How does a So. Korean student pass a NICS background check in the USA?? Unless he's a USA born So. Korean--otherwise he shouldn't have passed "GO"!!

Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: hntrjohn] #19870 04/17/2007 8:38 PM
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"He was eligible to buy a handgun because he was a permanent legal resident of the U.S. without a felony conviction.", according to World Net Daily. He also, "He had shown recent signs of violent, aberrant behavior, an investigative source told the Chicago paper, including setting a fire in a dorm room and allegedly stalking some women."

So why was he allowed to remain on campus and not other wise locked up?


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Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: Gary] #19871 04/17/2007 9:39 PM
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My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the victims as well as the students of VT. I can't even start to imagine the horror and pain that they must be going through. As usual, certain parts of the Australian media have jumped on the story and have started to question our gun laws and whether they need to be tightened. As a gun owner it is sickening to see these sort of massacres no matter where in the world they happen but it realy upsets me when you have to watch the media fallout that follows and worry whether the sport you love might be outlawed.

Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: geo01] #19872 04/18/2007 12:22 AM
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The media will blame the guns, but if not for a gun the whacko could have easily taped explosives to himself and done the damage. He obviously enjoyed pulling the trigger on innocent people. There was an interview this morning on CNN where a student described being on the floor above the carnage and hearing shots and screams AND laughter, wondering how could someone be laughing through this, and then realizing the reality of it. This guy was a fruit. You can't anticipate or prepare for a monster like this. I still say if there was a right to carry among the student/faculty population this would have been stopped before is went so far. The cops were damn worthless as well, plenty of blame to go around but the GUNS (and us rightful gun-owners) will take the brunt. Rod


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Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: s4s4u] #19873 04/18/2007 1:37 AM
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What do you know about the worthless cops? I guess what you hear from the news media... The same news media you condem for advocating gun control and blowing things out of perspective. Don't pick and choose what you believe. If they are wrong about blaming the guns, then maybe they are wrong about the police response. They are trying to sell newspapers and the negative statements sell. No one wants to hear the truth and and most won't believe it when its told. Don't condem the police until you are in the same situation and can judge the response for yourself. I can because I have been in that situation... BG


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Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: chiefbg] #19874 04/18/2007 2:18 AM
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Yes we can condemn the campus police in this case. They personally fought to stop the right to carry on campus. They personally stated in the newspaper AND on campus that THEY would protect the students and faculty. They gloated that it was a vicotry for THEM, Well guess what, they are fiing lawsuits from students that were wounded who were denied to carry as I write this.

I was also a police officer in the Denver metro area and you never tell someone you will protect them, because it is virtually impossible to protect everyone. But they publicly stated they would. They (the campus police) are going to make alot of people rich.


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Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: SS 308] #19875 04/18/2007 2:40 AM
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The majority of BLAME should go to the "UNEDUCATED PUBLIC"!!
Between them and the media they have us bickering amongst ourselves. I found myself in a verbal confrontation with someone today in a sporting goods store regarding this incident. I finally gave up by telling her that I refused to have a battle of wits with an UNARMED person. That shut her up.

Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: chiefbg] #19876 04/18/2007 4:14 AM
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I don't know what else you would call authorities who had two dead people, a live shooter, and took no immediate action to locate same. How can you ASS-U-ME the shooter left the state!?!?!?! How can you NOT mobilize every asset available to secure the situation. This stinks of laziness and unpreparedness. Sorry, truth hurts! Rod.


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Re: Sad Day In Virginia [Re: hntrjohn] #19877 04/18/2007 4:26 AM
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I have been watching this thing un fold and it is going to get a lot worse on us gun owners as i type this post sitting in the squad building i am hearing the words gun control on the bloob tube. I must say again as a public service worker i think the law enforcement and rescue personel alike did a good job this from a person sitting three hours away watching on tv. The ball i see got dropped weeks before this event when some one went to the police on this guy and nothing was done this terrible event is not the fault of a gun or gun laws but a troubled young man that did not meet crieteria in some ones eyes days or weeks before to have him confined for mental problems. I think this was the biggest mistake just as one of the other post said if not a handgun something that would go boom. I hope as a Virginian that this horrible event will not become the nations gun control advocates (smoking gun).


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