thanks for the info...i dont really reload..... i only reload for .30-30 and now its usually only for the reduced load i found on this site..great load....squirrels hate it......i have 4 contender barrels ...10 inch scoped 22....14 inch scoped 30-30...10 inch 45/410 and 10 inch 30-30.... was thinking of getting new barrel either 10inch 357 mag or 10 inch 44 but now may get the longer chambered sm or max barrel as that way i will have the ability to shoot stronger loads even though i will probaly most of the time shoot the shorter loads.....now i just have to decide between the sm or the max barrel and find one........thnaks again for the info....mack