hornaday lverevolution
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09/12/2008 2:05 AM
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anybody use thhis in 44 mag? just saw some at gun store and picked up box little pricey a 225gr bullet waht kind of shooting can i expect? how about impact?
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/12/2008 2:37 AM
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Did you find a box of loaded, or just the bullets? I haven't heard that they released the bullets only yet. I personally don't think you'll see any astouding difference in trajectory, from a 44 Mag. It is an SST bullet with a flexible rubber tip rather than the hard tip on the others. It will shoot fine, I'm sure, Hornady makes good stuff, but I don't think there will be a BIG difference from the XTP's. I would like to find some bullets to load in the 444 hybrid tho.
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09/12/2008 3:30 AM
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ya i found box of fully loaded ammunition-was about $19 for the box of 20
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/12/2008 4:52 AM
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I just got back from the a 50 yard indoor range. My super 14 30-30 printed a 5 shot group that I could cover up with a quarter (160 grain LEVERevolution). And, the 45-70 printed a fuzz over a inch (325 grain). I was never a fan of Hornady products until now. I can't wait till deer season, since I didn't get in handgun range for Antelope three weeks ago..... Oh, the recoil is STIFF.
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/12/2008 9:36 AM
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Until they are released for us reloaders, I won't be trying them.
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09/12/2008 1:33 PM
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They are a little pricey for me.
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09/12/2008 9:28 PM
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I think they will come into their own in longer tubes such as the lever actions where more velocity is achieved. I wouldn't expect a whole lot of "extra" performance in wheelgun length bbls. Friend of mine tried the .30-30 loads in his Win 94 and they were very accurate in his gun.
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/15/2008 7:46 PM
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I looked on Hornady and no for 375 win.
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/15/2008 11:37 PM
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Hello edd and welcome to the HHM forum. There is lots of info to be had by lots of great guys here. Enjoy!!
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09/16/2008 1:50 AM
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Shot them in my 450 marlin 18 inch barrel. I saw little to no drop at 200 yds. Though kinda a bugger to hang on to.
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09/16/2008 11:16 AM
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I was at LL Beans and decided to look at a box of them in .444 Marlin. At first glance the case looked wierd. I asked to see a box of the Remington .444's and when I put them together they were different. The overall cartridge length was the same, but the Hornady case looked to be almost 1/4" shorter than the Remington case. I'm sure that that has to do with cycling them in a lever gun, but I'm shooting them through my Encore and wanted a full length case for reloading so needless to say I didn't buy any. FT
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09/17/2008 3:20 AM
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Your right about the case being shorter. I couldn't believe how much shorter the lever revo case was to the other hornady cases were that i had bought new. I trimmed my other cases to minimum length and they were still a 1/16 th inch shorter. Not sure why Maybe someone else can answer that.
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/17/2008 5:46 AM
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Not sure why Maybe someone else can answer that.
I think Fishteach66 was right. With the longer bullet, they had to use a shorter case in order to cycle the round in lever action guns.
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09/18/2008 5:11 PM
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Well I re aquired my Marlin 1895 in 45-70 that I sold about a year and a half ago so I figured I'd see what all the fuss is about with this Hornady ammo. I have to say I'm not impressed with initial results, accuracy seems fair but out of 9 rounds fired to zero the gun I had two cases split about a 1/2 inch up from the head. I had cleaned the gun before I went out and when I got back I did a complete tear down and inspected the chamber thoroughly and found absolutely no problems with the gun which I didn't expect to. I then measured the 7 cases that didn't split as well as a new cartridge and found that the brass is only expanding .005-.006 of an inch which is well within normal limits which leaves only one of two possibilities, either the two that split were overcharged with powder which I doubt but more than likely it was inferior brass which surprises me because I've always had good luck with Hornady brass but unless one of you has another idea I'd say that was the problem. I can also say that I have loaded much hotter for this gun when I had it before and it had never split a case and the cracks I'm talking about are about 1/2" in length and run lengthwise on the case.
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/18/2008 7:35 PM
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Dang wapitirod, I had some high hopes to the new Hornady ammo, but definitely not now! From what you have described, I would say that it was the brass. Being factory ammo, do you think that the crimp on it could have been to tight? Maybe building to much pressure before the bullet is pushed out? Just a thought.
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/18/2008 8:58 PM
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I'm not sure what happened jeremy but I used to load 440gr hardcast to the same velocity that hornady does these 325gr bullets and I never had a failure except when brass got to about it's 4th or 5th reload and I would occasionally get a head seperation but I switched to nickel brass and never had another issue. I've had good luck with the hornady brass in my 475's and my 458 Lott but this definitely bothers me and I'll go back to loading my own with Remington nickel brass and Nosler Partitions.
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09/18/2008 9:40 PM
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I hear that! I just got done loading 50 new Hornady Brass w/240 XTPs, for my 44. I will keep an eye on my cases now. I hate that because I was going to get started up with the nickel cases. Best of luck to ya!
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Re: hornaday lverevolution
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09/19/2008 1:22 AM
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Might no be a bad idea to send the brass back to Hornady with the lot number and see what they have to say.
Let us know.
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09/19/2008 5:52 PM
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Might no be a bad idea to send the brass back to Hornady with the lot number and see what they have to say.
Let us know. I agree. If there's something not right, it needs to be discovered. Factory brass shouldn't be splitting like that.
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09/23/2008 8:51 PM
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I just got an email back from Hornady and they want me to send the unused ammo and split cases in and they will replace it at no charge. They think the brass is too hard and that is what is causing the problem. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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