I just bought 2 new MGM barrels one in 308 the other in 45 colt. I had them install the 6 hole bases at the shop and when I got them the other day and went to mount the scopes I found the some of the base screws 2 ea. on the 308 were loose and would not tighten up. I removed them and found the threads on the screws gone. I cleaned and re-tapped the holes and all seems well on the 308. However the 45 colt is another issue. I removed the base and found 1.0 - 1 thread engagement on the base screws and I think the threads may be in question. They are sending me some new base screws but I am not happy with this at all. All other fit and finish on the barrels was super by why half way do one of the most improtant tasks.

Give them a chance, they will make it right.

Ditto on what Shawn said.

If you were to ever talk to Mr Bullberry on tellaphone like hunlee did you will learn the MgM make sub standard barrel.After Hunlee learn this from Mr Bullberry Hunlee compleetly rule out MGM for custom barrel!!!!!HUnlee is very sorry to say this but this is what Hunlee learn from Mr Bullberry!!!!!Hunlee is no drunkard but is a true lover of woman!!!!!

hunlee

If one was to listen to the majority of barrel owners from both companies over a period of time concerning quality of work, ease of contacting the company and prompt customer service I am not so sure that would be the result.
I would listen to the consumers, not the owners on a issue like this regardless of the company.

that barrel is warrantied. if you talk to the MGM boys and send it back, they will fix anything that is wrong with it. they have great customer service.

.....and that is VERY unlike most reports i've seen on bullberry. sorry....but imo....hunlee very confused!, and i disagree wholehearetedly.

MGM makes an excellent barrel....with nothing "sub standard" about them.

I've ordered eight barrels from MGM and wouldn't hesitate to order another. I've owned a cpl of Bullberry barrels, but bought them used and they were good too. Hunlee may want to consider that, the owner of a competing company probably isn't the best place to go for feedback about the other companies product. I doubt if any company would suggest you buy someone elses product over their own. Pricewise, Bullberry still is listing the stub sale and has some good prices on the shorter lengths. I'd be interested to hear why Fred said MGM barrels were no good ?

MGM makes fine barrels and the customer service is great.I have had custom barrels from some other makers and as far as I'm concerned fo my money MGM is at the top part of my short list.
JIM

I've got 4-nary a problem with any of them. All shoot better than I can shoot 'em, and the folks at MGM have been very helpful.

Mr Bullberry tell Hunlee that barrel made by mgm are "sub standard"!!!!!!!Mr Bullberry never say they were no good?????Hunlee can see rite off there are better barrel out there but Hunlee get confused sometime like kyode say above but hunlee has made his mind up because of Mr Bullberry!!!!!!No MgM barrel for Hunlee,,,,,only Bullberry or SSK when Hunlee get custom!!!!!Proof is in the pudding as posted above and Hunlee like chocolate pudding!!!!!!

hunlee

Hunlee how many custom barrels do you own?

Hunlee not own evin one custom barrel but Hunlee has now talk to Mr Bullberry and Mr Jd Jone ssk on tellaphone about said Custom barrel!!!!!!Mr JD Jone tell Hunlee SSK are 2nd to no one out there but SSK barrel cost little more USA$$$$$$GREEN BACK DOLLAR!!!!!!!JD Jone tell Hunlee Bullyberry are not good but after talking to Mr Bullyberry Hunlee can see rite off that Mr Bullyberry and Mr JD Jone SSK are about on the same order!!!!!Hunlee think these two were cut from same cloth and Hunlee like this about them!!!!!Mr Bullyberry and Mr JD Jone SSK tell it like it is and Hunlee like this aswell!!!!Mr Bullyberry and Mr JD Jone SSK impress hunlee butt woman at Mgm not impress Hunlee!!!!!Hunlee is sure this woman at Mgm was just general gofor and receptionest but she should let Hunlee speek with Mr MGM!!!!Hunlee is wanting Custom barrel and this is reason Hunlee has called Mr Bullberry and Mr JD Jone SSK!!!!!!!Hunlee allso try to talk to Mr MGM other day butt Hunlee was only able to speek with woman on phone!!!!!!!Hunlee is a true lover of woman but Hunlee wood like to speek with man about Contender Barrel!!!!!!

hunlee

These are the first MGM barrels I have ordered I have had 2 Bullberry's before. I like the fit and finnish on the MGM better. I think this may be a case of sub standard screws. The other thing the one i had the problem with is a 45 colt so the holes are not drilled very deep. The best you might hope for is a 3-5 thread engagement. They had 1-1.5 I do not think that is enough. I may just send it back and let them work the issue

Enough said...

Hunlee was out of line passing on what Mr Bullyberry say about mgm butt Hunlee got to thinking!!!!!!Why not pass this on?????What Hunlee pass on about what Mr Bullyberry say might save someone greef down the road and Hunlee being friend to all sure not want greef for fello forum member!!!!!Hunlee do like talking to Mr JD Jone SSK and Mr Bullyberry tho!!!!!These two were pioneer of Contender shooting with Mr JD Jone SSK being the #1 KING of the Contender world and Mr Bullyberry being #2 in comand!!!!!Not many can argue this with hunlee!!!!

hunlee

OK I have done even a little more work on the threads with a 6-48 bottom tap and I am now quite sure once I get the right length screws that we should be able to bolt this thing down and sight it in.

On the other had I still need a Matte Scope for the 308 I wanted a 2-6 or 2-7 if any one has a new or very nice one sitting around

MGM is a fine Co. My 6mm PPC had problems but MGM paid for the shipping both ways and fixed it. EVERY Co. is going to have problems. Like I said on the scope post, it is how they remedy the problems that makes the Co!

It is funny to hear the “makers” talk about each other. Bullberry told me what blanks they use and MGM tells me what blanks Bullberry uses. They stories are not constant. To make the long story short, don’t beleave everything you hear. If you have questions go get it straight from the horses’ mouth. Sometimes simple mistakes, that are easily fix and resolved, haunt makers. I have 9 custom barrels that bear four different makers names. Some have had problems and some have not. But ALL the problems I have had have been fix just by communication. No craftsman can fix their work if you do not communicate with them!!!!!!!!!

Respectfully

Duane

I am proud to live in the USA and I believe in free speech, so please don't take this wrong. I completely understand a consumer voicing an opinion, we all do, about a manufacturer. I respect every HH members opinion and frequently ask for them. I find this a very reliable source of information. However, I (just my opinion) do not like to hear one manufacturer talk negatively about another manufacturer. I prefer a manufacturer to stand on his good reputation. If his product is indeed superior the consumer will gladly spread the word. JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION.

Safe shooting
Doug

You are right. I am sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the comments manufacturers say about other manufactures not the wonder voice of experience that comes from HH members. Thank you for clarifying my brain fart.

Duane

No offence Hunlee, but now that you said that about bullberry, I wont even consider buying a bullberry or ssk product. Ofcourse they would bash other barrel company's. After all there isn't that big of market out there, so any step up on the compotition they can get, sell's more barrels. I think the MGM barrels fit much better and there customer service has treated me well. Before you start saying what other gun makers say about there compotition you need facts. It's not fair. Again Hunlee no offense just spouting off. I have shot severel MGM barrels an seen even more. They make a good product. Every machinist has a bad day, as long as they make it right, thats what counts.

Lars

Hunlee not take offence about anything here!!!!!Hunlee is friend to all and is just passing on knowledge to other people!!!!!Hunlee like knowledge and allso like to talk to smart people like JD Jone SSK and Mr Bullyberry!!!!!!

hunlee

All three companies make good products.
True, some have had some down times in various ways(more than one of them).
Every company is going to believe that their product is the best.
I have used barrels from all three makers.

The products themselves, and the customer service that is given is what determines how good a company is-Not The Owners Claims About Themselves or Their Cut-Downs (if given) of Other Competitors.

hunlee....me kinnda like to talk to pretty sounding woman on phone at MGM.

i can get my knowledge, information, and learnins from the long haired books....boy.

i've dealt with MGM on 3. superb customer relations there imo.

long live OTT, SSK,.....and MGM! ....my picks.

Hunlee make mistake by posting what Bullyberry and SSK say!!!!!Hunlee should of not did this!!!!!!!Hunlee should of not done this but is not going to say sorry to anyone!!!!!Hunlee still stand very tall and is very proud......Hunlee is no drunkard but is a true lover of woman!!!!!!

hunlee

Hunlee if you were truthful and simply related what was told to you I am cool with that. No apology needed IMO.

Recoil

everyone is entitled to their opinoin. use what works for you, makes you happy, and gives you confidence. thats what life is all about. any company can have a blooper at any time.

I never had an MGM. But my customer service experience w/Bullberry was so bad I dropped single shots & switched to revolvers. Hunlee is lucky in my opinion. The product was good but the rest. Yikes.

No problem Hunlee, Your an alright guy as far as I'm concerned.

Lars

Ok here is where I get twisted out of the frame!!! I went and shot the 45 Colt Barrel today and the cases will not eject the extractor is to short and does not catch the rim of the case.

Barrel going back on monday

yep....things do need tweeking with custom barrels from time to time from what i've seen. i've had barrels go back in 2 or 3 instances....at different makers. just the nature of the beast it seems.

they WILL take care of you on it, and cover shipping with a ups# if you contact them. things happen, and sometimes things need adjusted for that true custom fit.

when the bugs are worked out...you've really got something worth owning.

i guess if that does not satisfy....then one will have to be content with a standard chamber factory barrel, in the finish, length, and twist they offer, with "good nuff" accuracy.

Well as bad a time as I had with the 45 Colt the 308 was a nice suprise. I shot the MGM 308 14" full bull Encore today with factory load Remington Core Loc it shot several sub 1" groups at 100 yds and the final two were sub 1/2" so I am good with it they sent call tags for the 45 barrel and stated they would fix all the problems. We will see

I had to send my custom mgm scope mounts back cause they didn't fit right. They sent me 2 new ones and a huge apology letter. they are very apriciative of there customer's.

Lars

Thats a good start after all the aggrevation. Lets hope the 45 Colt barrel shines too!

I can't stand the way Hunlee talks but we all have different ways of doing things...I hate beating around the bush!!!
SSK is good from what I've heard...prices are kinda high. (yes, I own 1 of his barrels)
Bullberry takes FOREVER to get anything done and you can never get an answer on the phone!! (no, I don't own his barrels)
MGM...I've talked to Kerry on the phone before on other projects and he will make it right!!!!! ( yes, I own his barrels)
So, give MGM a chance and you won't be sorry.

It is interesting to see preferences and opinions. It is amazing to see that people are just as opinionated about barrel makers as they are truck co. and presidents. And to be honest it is just as political. I don’t own any pistol barrels that are not “custom” barrels. That is just my choice. BUT, there is only one barrel maker I prefer not to do business with and it is not because of the co. work. It is because I have met the owner on a couple of occasions and just don’t care for him. The only co. I have had any problems with is MGM and I would do business with them again in a heartbeat. The ONLY problem I have had with Bullberry is their barrels were made to so tight of spec.’s that I couldn’t put them in any of the “3” 4 digit serial number Encore frames that I had. They offered to fix them by shipping one of my frames up there with a barrel and I just bought a new frame. It just gave me an excuse to buy a new frame with the Mrs. TC. To be honest, I think that is a wonderful problem. In short, please don’t “bash” these companies. Point in fact, my Grandfather wouldn’t buy anything but a Ford. Why, because they treated him right and he was not going to stray.

We all base our opinions on our experiences, and that is all that they are — opinions, so here is mine. One problem with something and all of a sudden everything that company makes has a problem. This simply isn't the case with most companies. Any of them are likely to have a QC problem at times and unfortunately that item is the one that someone rightfully complains about. However those complaints should be voiced to the manufacturer first to see if they'll make it right. Now if they don't fix it, give you a hard time, or if there seems to be faulty products going out on a regular basis then that's a different story.

I've found that many of the custom shops will bad mouth the competition, which I don't always agree with, but that's their business. I own several SSK barrels and they have never let me down. I have had some almost unbelievable experiences with a couple of the other custom shops which amount to the owners being rude and too arrogant to admit when they were wrong. Fortunately one of them is out of business now.

For my money, SSK is the standard by which all others are judged. JD has been on the forefront of innovation for over 40 years and I can't think of anyone still living that can match his accomplishments and I don't think anyone can when it comes to his contributions to hunting handguns. With that said, there are some quality alternatives out there if you don't want to spend the money with SSK — it's a personal choice.

i agree with Gary! i have dealt with several other barrel manufacturers, but i keep coming back to SSK. JD has always been available to answer questions either on the phone or via email and he product has been outstanding! I actually just found a "new" unfired Stainless super blackhawk that he built a number of years ago. the Ruger was completely customized and is numbered #58 out of 200 and has the HHI logo on top! it still had the factory seal around the hammer and guess what? the first i did was cut that off and fire it! it has to be the best firing revolver that i have ever shot!! has soon as i get a phot of it, i will post it! It is going to be on my hip every time i go into the field from now on! I emailed JD to ask him about the gun and he quickly responded to my questions. i think that is good customer service! i WILL be buying more barrels from him soon!

Great find on the SBH Andyhunter!

OK here is the end result I sent the barrel back and they replaced the extractor and quickly returned it i shot it today at the range and @ 100 it is doing about 3" that is if i can hold it (I am quite sure it shoots better than me it only has a 2X on it) at 50 it is about 1" CTC. I am hunting with it in the morning we will see how she does. I think i will be quite happy in the long run.