They should go cheap.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-27-prez-money_N.htm

Wow!
Thanks for the link-That was surprising

WOW, I'm very unimpressed with Cooper, guess that's one firearm to scratch of the wish list!

I hope that this causes him some financial discomfort.People just will not learn that you should not $#!t where you sleep.
Jim

I just sent a respectfull but blunt email to Cooper Arms letting them know that they have betrayed the trust of all gun owners in America. I would encourage all of you to do the same. Here is the email address.

info@cooperfirearms.com

Here is my e-mail to Cooper Firearms

Dear Cooper Firearms

You have betrayed the trust of every American Gun Owner and Hunter with your support of Barack Obama. I am encouraging ALL sportsman and gun owners to refrain from ever purchasing one of your firearms.

How could you Dan Cooper a gun maker support Barack Obama who has cast more votes towards gun confiscation than Ted Kennedy himself. Who has voted to deny a gun owner the right to protect himself while in his own home.

You Dan Cooper have spoken very loud and clear with your $4,300 donation to Barack Obama and his campain. Good luck as a small business here in Montana, but I doubt you will ever see another firearm purchased from your company by another Montanan.

Here are some FACTS for you:

Setting aside the socialist policy issues, and "spreading the money around" that you work for, everyone should be very clear about where Barack Obama stands on guns.

This was taken from http://www.gunbanobama.com/ which is an NRA-ILA project, and it is available in PDF form at: http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/2008Obamafactsht.pdf

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate "assault weapons," but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and "research."8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00219)

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in "Obama had greater role on liberal survey," Politico, March 31, 2008. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00217)

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... on-se.html)

5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.

6. "Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record." Obama '08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/20 ... amas_c.php)

7. "Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote," Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 60181.html)

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

9. "Obama and Gun Control," The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

12. "Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control," Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/ ... wards.html)

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, "Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action," February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog ... shoot.html)

14. Barack Obama campaign website: "As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . ." (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urban ... nforcement.)

15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_ ... ontrol.htm and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004.

16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.

17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.

18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to: http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.

A gun owner let alone gun maker supporting a democrat is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders fried chicken.


Jon Erdmann
NRA Life Member

WOW i come close on more then once of buying one of his guns
but never did now i am happy i didnot and looks like i never
will now thats crap
larry

Montanan, that was well put and right along the same lines as what I wrote. Maybe if he gets enough of those type of emails he'll figure it out.

wapitirod, I hope Dan Cooper realizes that his kind of company is what Obama wants to put out of business. Obama does not care if Cooper Firearms is stuck in the middle of Montana and not in the inner city of Chicago.

But I do know one thing for sure, this household will never own a Cooper Firearm ever.

Very surprising...I have long lusted after Cooper's rifles. I guess I'll just have to switch favors to another semi-custom rifle shop.

Although there is one at a local Pawn Shop that may get more attention from me, now that Cooper will be shunned by gun owners everywhere!

info@cooperfirearms.com

I think we should let them know what we think of their choice.

Theres a statement up now.
http://www.cooperfirearms.com/

I'm not finding the statement, was it on the home page or under a specific category?

But then where did USA Today get their information from?

Wow if his statement is true, he should sew USA Today for false advertising.

Lars

OK here is the statement copied from the Cooper web site;

Regarding the USA Today Article. Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc. did not contribute and does not support in any fashion the campaign of Senator Obama.

Nine months ago Dan Cooper (personally) made an online donation to the campaign in an effort to help defeat Hillary Clinton and in protest of American plant closures and the shipping of jobs overseas. Three months ago he made yet another donation to the McCain campaign and the RNC totaling over twice that given to Obama campaign.

There is no doubt that the article in USA Today has caused a considerable response. To this end we are encouraged and stand with our fellow NRA members and supporters of the Second Amendment and against those who oppose it.

So Dan Cooper did donate ( read second paragraph carefully) to the obama campaign. WOW!! What was he thinking. I still think it's a bad move even if to keep hillary from winning the democratic bid. Seems to me hillary would not have been as much of a threat as obama is now.

OK here is what I sent to Cooper Arms, let me know if I over steped my boundries.

I read the USA Today article. That's really sad!!! I read the statement on your web site. Cooper Arms did not donate to the rabid anti gun obama, but Dan Cooper did. Does Dan Cooper not own or at least run Cooper Arms?? If he has no association please let me know. Other wise Cooper Arms is guilty by association! It's sad the money Dan wasted was not given to the NRA. I also see that "twice" the money was given to the RNC, so does that make it right? I personally don't think so!!!

I have read that Cooper Arms was going to bring out a specialty pistol in 2009. I was really interested in it, but I will seriously have to reconsider that.

Mr. Cooper you really messed up!!!!

Regretfully, Dale L Adams

I don't think you overstepped at all Tig, I think it is very well put.

But if ya go here
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/campaign-finance/search-contributions.html
Now put in Cooper Arms Zip code which is 59870, and see what you get. None to McCain!!

Dan Cooper has spoken loud and clear. As they say, Actions speak louder than words, and now what he says is falling on deaf ears.

12 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $200 Barack Obama
13 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $-200 Barack Obama
14 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $200 Barack Obama
15 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $50 Barack Obama
16 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $1,000 Barack Obama
17 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $-900 Barack Obama
18 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $900 Barack Obama
19 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $60.6 Barack Obama
20 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $-60.6 Barack Obama
21 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $60.6 Barack Obama
22 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $32.59 Barack Obama
23 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $-32.59 Barack Obama
24 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $32.59 Barack Obama
25 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $50 Barack Obama
26 Cooper, Dan Stevensville MT 59870 Cooper Arms $2,100 Barack Obama

Oh the tangled webs Dan Cooper weaves.

Found this. Rather interesting, and it confirms the statement was removed.

I think you are right. As I had stated on other forum boards, Dan Cooper commited business suicide.

http://www.downrange.tv/blog/?p=1039

I think we should ask them about that, if there is one thing I hate more than a liberal it's a liberal that's also a liar (which means 99.9% of all liberals)

This is the response I sent after doing the New York Times donation search myself:

I sent an email yesterday about Dan Coopers support of Obama and then later I saw your response which according to donation records supplied by the New York Times was an out right lie. According to the Times no donations were ever made to McCain but there are quite a few to Obama, not only did you betray your customers and every other gun owner in America but then you lied to try and save face. I am disappointed and angry that an American firearms company would behave in such a way but I'm sure you will feel the sting from your actions and I hope bankruptcy isn't too hard on you.

Sincerely,
Rod Huelter

Good one there.

I love how fast his down fall came.

Sent this to Cooper


Mr. Cooper,

You amaze and confuse me with your public endorsement and contribution to Obama. The muslim world is at war with us and you want Obama in the White House? If we're lucky, he is just a misguided liberal idiot, but more than likely he is a mole. More than likely soon to be the most successful one in the history of the planet. Imagaine the laughter in the classrooms of the future as teachers explain why the US crumbled. That future once seemed centuries away. Now I fear it will happen in my lifetime due to misguided voters.

Ever wonder why the Japanese didn't invade mainland United States in 1941? Ever read any history? By Japan's own flag officer's statements, "An invasion would fail. There will be a gun behind every tree." Ever wonder why Poland and France fell so easily to the German invasion? Socialism and gun control. Ever wonder why Germany was not able to get the Mexicans to invade the southern U.S. during WWII? Did you even know Germany courted Mexico for that purpose?

You sold us out. Though I know your rifles, I never knew your full name. Never will I forget your name and never will I buy anything you market. I'll make sure everyone I know hears your story.

"Dan stands by the 2nd Amendment"??? Obama has said that also. The statement from the shareholders and board of directors of your company is too little, too late. Your target market is not that forgiving.

Mike Boykin
Soldier
NRA member

Well written Ranger, most people don't realize that because of Obama's past associations he couldn't even get a top secret security clearance in the military or pass the background check for any of the government intelligence agencies but he may be in charge of all of them, ironic aint it.

My e-mail was not respectful at all! I hope they go out of business. No I don't feel sorry for the rest of the company. You want to make an omlett. Ya gotta break some eggs.

Wap, if he was in the military he couldn't even get a secret clearance which is required just to type your name in a DOD computer.

Anybody here remember their oath, "defend against all enimies. Foriegn & DOMESTIC". I'll probably get investigated for typing it. Even though I once held such a clearance. This whole situation is shamefull.

Ranger i remember in early mid 80's when I was on a sub the only people that didn't have top secret clearance were the cooks and like you said they had to have secret clearance just to come on board.

Bingo, that part of my oath has been on my mind alot lately but the way it's going they might has well just hand over the keys for the white house to Bin Laden and Putin.

Holy smokes!!!! They just put Mr. Cooper on the street. That just proves you don't turn your back on good hard working Americans. And definetly don't lie to them. You guy's better read there new statement on the cooper web site.

Lars

Bingo, yes. I remember my oath. Taken several times....I'll leave it at that

It is amazing what type of country we had after WWI and WWII. All the vets after the draft had a lot different opinion and perspective of this great country. To bad we don’t have the same respect today.

amen on the several times.
larry

I just read in the USA Today that Cooper has been fired as CEO of Cooper firearms.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-30-gun-ceo-ousted_N.htm#LogIn

I still think it's a dog & pony show. He'll still have a majority in the company as well as it's his name. W/numerous relatives working there no doubt. Just a way they can say they did something. Their bread is buttered w/him & they'll stay loyal to him. I hope they have a lean holiday season & have to shut the doors.

The wuestion was Will I ever buy a Cooper firearm? The answer is "NO"

Simple is better Rupe.

Not to get too far off the forum's target but the 2nd Amendment is only a part America that Obama wants to destroy.

On the Dem website the agenda states military will change: Homosexuals will serve openly. For those that have not spent months in tight quarters with other men, under threat of death, this may seem a small thing. The military is not a forum for equalization of fringe groups. It's there for our defense. And yes, gays will degrade our ability to protect you. DOD's focus should be to do whatever it takes to ensure our military is the strongest on earth. That means excluding fringe elements in order to reduce distractors.

Dems also want to change military retirement. Active duty military will not draw 20 year retirement pay upon retirement. The plan is for over age 62. Broken promise. This concerns my home since I'm retiring this year. They want to keep MY money for 20 years and "spread the wealth" to those who won't serve or work. And of course without a 20 year retirement, no one will serve with the intent of being a long term professional soldier. Does that scare anyone?! The military will fall apart.

Everything on the Dem agenda follows the same theme. Degrade the nation.

I agree with everything you said Ranger, I was on a fast attack sub where we were hot bunking and there are somethings that just shouldn't be in the armed forces.