Our piece of crap elect announces his anti-gun agenda.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=4227

Friday, November 07, 2008


Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign slogan, "the audacity of hope," should have instead been "the audacity of deceit." After months of telling the American people that he supports the Second Amendment, and only hours after being declared the president-elect, the Obama transition team website announced an agenda taken straight from the anti-gun lobby--four initiatives designed to ban guns and drive law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers out of business:

"Making the expired federal assault weapons ban permanent." Perhaps no other firearm issue has been more dishonestly portrayed by gun prohibitionists. Notwithstanding their predictions that the ban's expiration in 2004 would bring about the end of civilization, for the last four years the nation's murder rate has been lower than anytime since the mid-1960s. Studies for Congress, the Congressional Research Service, the National Institute of Justice, the National Academy of Sciences, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found no evidence that gun prohibition or gun control reduces crime. Guns that were affected by the ban are used in only a tiny fraction of violent crime-about 35 times as many people are murdered without any sort of firearm (knives, bare hands, etc.), as with "assault weapons." Obama says that "assault weapons" are machine guns that "belong on foreign battlefields," but that is a lie; the guns are only semi-automatic, and they are not used by a military force anywhere on the planet.

"Repeal the Tiahrt Amendment." The amendment--endorsed by the Fraternal Order of Police--prohibits the release of federal firearm tracing information to anyone other than a law enforcement agency conducting a bona fide criminal investigation. Anti-gun activists oppose the restriction, because it prevents them from obtaining tracing information and using it in frivolous lawsuits against law-abiding firearm manufacturers. Their lawsuits seek to obtain huge financial judgments against firearm manufacturers when a criminal uses a gun to inflict harm, even though the manufacturers have complied with all applicable laws.

"Closing the gun show loophole." There is no "loophole." Under federal law, a firearm dealer must conduct a background check on anyone to whom he sells a gun, regardless of where the sale takes place. A person who is not a dealer may sell a gun from his personal collection without conducting a check. Gun prohibitionists claim that many criminals obtain guns from gun shows, though the most recent federal survey of convicted felons put the figure at only 0.7 percent. They also claim that non-dealers should be required to conduct checks when selling guns at shows, but the legislation they support goes far beyond imposing that lone requirement. In fact, anti-gun members of Congress voted against that limited measure, holding out for a broader bill intended to drive shows out of business.

"Making guns in this country childproof." "Childproof" is a codeword for a variety of schemes designed to prevent the sale of firearms by imposing impossible or highly expensive design requirements, such as biometric shooter-identification systems. While no one opposes keeping children safe, the fact is that accidental firearm-related deaths among children have decreased 86 percent since 1975, even as the numbers of children and guns have risen dramatically. Today, the chances of a child being killed in a firearm accident are less than one in a million.

Anyone with half a brain saw this coming. Like I mentioned in the other thread, it's time take the fight to them and be relentless in voicing our opinions to our elected officials when these bills appear.

I knew it would happen as fast as lightnin. The silver tounged devil, fooled so many Americans. With ol Dan Cooper being close to the top of the list!!

It a crying shame!!!!!

I'm proud to say that I didn't vote for him!!!

He said and did anything necessary to get elected. Anyone who bought into his b.s. and voted for him deserves exactly what they are going to get. Its unfortunate that those of us who believe in the Constitution and the values this country was founded on will have to suffer for their ignorance.

you can piss and moan to your congressman all you want and it's not going to do any good. Where is the idiot loudmouth I offended from the other post now, bet he's glad he voted for obama.

I am glad to see the zeal you have for your freedom and rights Rod. I wish more people felt like you did. But, have you ever heard of the prodigal son?

Like we didn't see this coming?!?!? He can't do it alone tho. Stay on your rep's and keep 'em honest. Even when the Clinton AWB went through it did not have complete party support, that is why they put the sunset provision in. I still don't understand why they would want to try again something that proved ineffective the first time around. Morons.

The "assualt weapons" are not well understood by the general public and many sportsmen so they are the easiest to ban and will thus receive less flak. They are simply the low hanging fruit. When that gets passed then they'll move on to other types of guns.

Gary is exactly right and I wouldn't count on there being enough pro gun politicians to stop anything, they may still have philibuster power but they can only delay the inevitable. I don't think some of you really understand this guy and more importantly those that share power with him, these are the darkest days this country has faced since the revolution and it goes beyond just gun control but gun control is how you take a population from being citizens to subjects. The ideals shared by the president elect, the overwhelming majority of the legislative branch and soon the judicial branch of the federal govt fall directly in line with the socialist ways of the european govt's and the united nations and for those of you that don't follow these things the un has not stopped pushing for their international gun ban and the united states is either the last or one of very few hold outs left. Those of you that think this isn't as scary as I make it sound should talk to our brothers in Australia and Europe because they made the same mistakes and they didn't really believe it could get that bad.

Well said Rod!

I also agree 100%! I don’t have any use or interest in assault weapons, BUT I also know that is a “foot in the door” process. I also know the fact that the common “public image” of assault weapons and particularly handguns is totally different than ours. What I am worried about is the abolishment of the philibuster. Them just saying that it is out of date and getting rid of it.

I also agree with the fact that we need to be very pro-active about our rights. Because if we don’t know one else will. Once a simple card is removed our rights could be taken away over night just like a house of falling down.

I won't take my NoBama stickers off my car/truck til he's out. Also proud to say I didn't vote for the "Messiah"

Wonder how long it will take for the "Don't Blame Me, I Voted for McCain" stickers to arrive.

go to cafepress.com, they already have them.

We should all write congress before they get to busy, just to let them know were watching them.

Lars

I just sent off an email to my lone Republican representative congratulating him on his recent victory and I attached the NRA statement at the first of this post and asked him to pass on our concerns to his fellow representatives.

Morons is right and NY state adopted the AWB. So I guess it was effective to a point. If it goes thru again it might not have a sunset, or more left-wing states will adopt it.

bump, I wanted to make sure our pro-obama friends have a chance to read this

Rod - do we have pro-Obama friends? I think not.

Realizing that his stance on guns has driven sales through the roof, Obama has taken down his agenda from the website but don't think for a moment he's changed his mind or Biden or Pelosi yada yada yada.

LOL. I guess friend was the wrong word.

You got that right!!!

I thought somebody was spouting off about how great Obama was on this site right after the election. It sure has been quiet since then though.

he was back today but not for long, the story I'm attaching below will make you feel much better about things. We all know he wants our guns and with this we have an idea of who will come to try and take them.

Congressman Warns of Obama Dictatorship


Monday, November 10, 2008 6:44 PM



WASHINGTON — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.

"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force.

Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.

"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential."

Obama's transition office did not respond immediately to Broun's remarks

Those that voted for Obama should read this twice!

Civilian National Security Force = Brown Shirts

they'll never get my guns but I'll give them all the bullets they want

one at a time?.......KRal

yep, and I'll even give them to em at varying velocities from a 1000fps to about 3000fps in all different sizes, that way they don't get bored and tired of playing to soon.

"Obamamania" is a testimonial to the naievity of the American people.

I saw a special on Jim Jones today and people were trying to figure out why his followers were willing to give up their and their families lives so easily. Someone responded by saying how he was such a convincing eloquent speaker that they could almost see how it happened...infriggincredible!!

Rod, that makes the game alot more interesting...KRal