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Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! #38580 11/09/2008 4:20 AM
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Alright !!! I am going to order a ruger blackhawk in 45 long colt with a 4 3/8 barrel. What if any upgrades should I get first, and I need some good bear loads. I like it hot and messy. Any advice is alway's welcome. I plan on hunting black bear in Montana this spring.

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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: lhunter03] #38581 11/09/2008 4:25 AM
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The gun itself is plenty out of the box the only shortcoming is the trigger. you can install a set of wolff springs and if you use the 30oz trigger spring you'll end up with about a 2.5lb trigger pull, the heavier hammer spring (24lb if I remember) will reduce lock time but it's not as smooth as the 17 or 19lb springs and the extra power base pin latch spring will stop the base pin from jumping under heavy recoil which is a must for what your wanting to do. You can do lot's to that gun to make it shoot better if wish from a full blown action job, reaming the cylinder and installing a belt mountain oversized base pin, it just depends on what you want as a final result and how much you want to spend.


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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: lhunter03] #38593 11/09/2008 11:59 AM
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If you don't reload I'd look at Corbon Ammo.

Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: MIHunter] #38604 11/09/2008 4:06 PM
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I reload Maybe to much !!! If there is such a thing.

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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: lhunter03] #38605 11/09/2008 4:30 PM
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I like a 325 or 335 CPB over 23 grains of H110. Probably take anything on the continent.

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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: mellonhead] #38606 11/09/2008 4:33 PM
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Sorry for the ignorance, but what is a cpb?


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Thanks!!!

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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: lhunter03] #38615 11/09/2008 6:04 PM
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You might also try 21.0grs of W296 over a 300gr Hornady XTP HP. It shoots extrmely well in my Bisley 5 1/2" and should take a black bear easily.IMO


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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: lhunter03] #38616 11/09/2008 6:05 PM
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Might be too hot for your 4 5/8 but in my Bisley 7 1/2, I use a 250gr cast bullet over 9.3grs Unique..very very accurate at 100 yds..ElDee

Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: PsyopsE6] #38623 11/09/2008 6:29 PM
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 Originally Posted By: PsyopsE6
Might be too hot for your 4 5/8 but in my Bisley 7 1/2, I use a 250gr cast bullet over 9.3grs Unique..very very accurate at 100 yds..ElDee


no such thing as too hot unless the gun blows up.LOL I have a
4 5/8 475 Linebaugh with a standard grip frame that I run max loads with bullets from 355gr to 425gr running 1500fps to 1250fps so it depends on the individual, for me I take more punishment from my 6" bisley with the same loads but I don't get as much muzzle flip.


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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: wapitirod] #38624 11/09/2008 6:31 PM
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My RBH LC's like 340gr Penn Bullets over Lil'Gun.


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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: Dan B.] #38639 11/09/2008 10:31 PM
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I like 335 gr Cast Performance bullets in mine. Be sure to check the cylinder throat dimensions when you get it too. For some reason .45 Colt Blackhawks seem to be undersized from time to time. Good luck and enjoy the new gun!


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Hornady 250 XTP w it 20.5 Gr of 2400 or Sierra 300 gr sp with 20.0 gr 2400

Both are thumpers


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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: pab1] #38644 11/09/2008 11:40 PM
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You might want to check the throats in the cylinder. Ruger is known for inconsistancy on the 45 Colt, usually running on the small side that hampers accuracy. Cas will hand ream them and his turn around time is rather quick. Here is a link to his web site.

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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: Tigger] #38659 11/10/2008 1:20 AM
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Hey thanks for the throating advice. Does it really help with acuracy?

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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: lhunter03] #38663 11/10/2008 1:28 AM
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Here is a good explanation from cylindersmith.

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There are a few reasons to ream a cylinder throat. The most obvious reason is to correct an undersized throat diameter. Some manufacturers regularly produce their revolvers with cylinder throats that are smaller than the bore diameter. The problem with this is not only does it increase chamber pressure, but it isn't conducive to accuracy. When a bullet passes through the undersized cylinder throat, it is swaged down to the smaller size. The bullet is now undersized for the revolvers bore, leading to decreased accuracy and increased leading with cast bullets.
As well, some heavy bullets and LBT style bullets will not chamber in a cylinder with tight throats. This is quite common with LFN and WFN profile cast bullets. This was the very reason I started to do this work in the first place. My own guns wouldn't chamber 300gr WFN bullets.


Many shooter want to be sure that their cylinder throats are uniform, and like knowing that things are "right". Uniformity plays a large role in a revolvers ability to group. Persistent flyers can often be traced to one or two throats in particular that vary from the rest.

While we do not make any claims or guarantees of improved accuracy, it's generally the case. Like most things, some guns will greatly benefit from this work with major improvements, while with others it will not be as noticeable. I will say that in the several years that I've been doing this work, in terms of accuracy most guns benefited to some degree. Some did not. NONE have gotten worse.



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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: Tigger] #38701 11/10/2008 4:39 AM
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Looks like i'll be sending it off.

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Re: Bear stompin loads for the 45 long colt !!! [Re: PsyopsE6] #38708 11/10/2008 10:40 AM
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I once used a cast 280gr SWCGC over 23.0grs of H-110 in my 4 5/8"
Blackhawk in .45 Colt to take a very large boar at close range. The first shot clipped his spine and dropped his back legs. It just got dark and he dragged himself into the thickets and when I caught up to him I put one more through the shoulder that rolled him over. All I found was one gas check when I opened him up. Good load for a good gun for big animals....


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