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500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? #38935 11/12/2008 5:05 AM
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GENTLEMAN,
I am looking to have a 15 inch encore bbl made for one of these .50's. My question to anyone who can help is......will the 50 Alaskan noticably outperform the 500 S/W keeping in mind that I am using a 15 inch bbl? I have read the ballistics table for the Alaskan. Unfortunately everything I have found is based on a 18-20 inch bbl. The 500 S/W tables I have found are based on the 8 3/8 inch bbl. I am hoping to get input on both rounds, using the 15 inch bbl., to help make a decision.

Thanks in advance for the help

Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: BUBBA] #38947 11/12/2008 2:48 PM
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Ask JD.

Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: BUBBA] #38966 11/12/2008 6:05 PM
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I can't tell you much about the 50AK in an Encore barrel but I know someone who can. Go to cast boolits and look up a guy that goes by the handle of "45nut". He has one made by OTT and I have shot it before. The shark gill break really tames the recoil. We destoyed a bowling pin in 2 shots. Usually a pin will soak up some lead before coming unglued.



I'm sure you know this but thought I'd mention it anyway. The 50AK requires a .510" diameter bullet, so it's mostly a cast bullet, handload proposition. The 500 S&W is .500" diameter with alot better choices for jacked bullets.


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: Tigger] #38979 11/12/2008 10:36 PM
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Tigger,

Was that pin from the western pennsylvania shoot at Jim's place?

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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: fastguns] #39009 11/13/2008 1:29 AM
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sounds like I may need to get my Marlin 1895 worked over.


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: pahandgunhunter] #39017 11/13/2008 1:56 AM
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 Originally Posted By: pahandgunhunter
Tigger,

Was that pin from the western pennsylvania shoot at Jim's place?


Yes it was, when Ken came out. That was a nice shoot with some cool calibers. Wasn't it?


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: Tigger] #39019 11/13/2008 2:04 AM
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Looks like I need a 50 B&M AK in a 5 shot SBH! LOL I don't think I could hold onto it!!!


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: TCTex.] #39021 11/13/2008 2:15 AM
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 Originally Posted By: TCMan
Looks like I need a 50 B&M AK in a 5 shot SBH! LOL I don't think I could hold onto it!!!


you know magnum research would probably chamber a bfr in that for you, they already have the .500 barrel for the s&w so all they have to do is rechamer the cylinder. seems like they were pretty fair priced about it. if you do it I'll watch but let you go first, I've shot alot of monster powered revolvers but I'd like a demonstration of that one first. lol


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Reminiscing on our previous conversations, I think a 475 is all I want to shoot! I have articles on the FA’s 50 cal and there is a reason one of the loads is rated “T-Rex, kills on both ends, thumper. If I ever have the privilege of buying a FA it will either be a 44Mag or a 475.


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: wapitirod] #39083 11/13/2008 5:08 PM
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 Originally Posted By: wapitirod
you know magnum research would probably chamber a bfr in that for you, they already have the .500 barrel for the s&w so all they have to do is rechamer the cylinder. seems like they were pretty fair priced about it. if you do it I'll watch but let you go first, I've shot alot of monster powered revolvers but I'd like a demonstration of that one first. lol


Ehi wapi, do you really think that could be possible to chamber a BFR with the .50 Alaskan? Do you think I could shoot the same 500 grs at 2000 fps in a BFR? Goddam partner, I've calculated that in the 10 5/8" BFR barrel the same 500 grs bullet runs at c.ca 1680 fps, with more of 3130 fpe!!! If it is true my friend, you know I wanted a PC model in .450 Marlin, well NOW I want it in .50 Alaskan!


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: El Che] #39089 11/13/2008 6:31 PM
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I'm sure they would, the only thing they have to do is get hold of the reamer which here in the states there our outfits they can rent them from if they don't have them and don't want to buy them. The only question would be what the pressure levels are but my guess is that they aren't any higher and the 450Marlin. As far as velocity your going to lose some from the Encore because of barrel length and the cylinder gap but it would still be a thumper on both ends.
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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: fastguns] #39112 11/13/2008 9:07 PM
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Why Log? Do you think Alaskan fifty is not safe in the BFR? Is nothing ironic in my question man, it's only that I've to know something more "specific"


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the main concern would be recoil, I'm not positive on operating pressures of the 50ak but they are probably safe in that gun but the question is would it be any fun to shoot.


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: wapitirod] #39148 11/14/2008 12:20 AM
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Wow......thank you all for the quick assistance. Being new to the site, I must say I appreciate all of the help everyone gave to the new guy. I was quickly sold on the 50 B&M AK. It's nice to see that there are other shooters out there that like the "seatbelt and helmut required" handguns. JD told me years ago that my 375 JDJ would do the trick for anything that walks or crawls. But ya know how it is with the new toys thing !!!

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Welcome to the sight. I don’t know anything about the 50’s so I didn’t post. Hope you have enjoy this wonderful sight as much as I do!


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: fastguns] #39172 11/14/2008 11:48 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Log Cabin Lewey
Oh I think it could handle it the way Magnum Research makes their guns. My main hunting gun is a Desert Eagle 50. I don't think you would want to squeeze the trigger on a 3 something pound gun in a 50 Alaskan though.


Of course you're right Log, and, thinking better, fun cannot go to the detriment of the health, even if 10 5/8" long cylinder BFR weight 4.8 pounds, not 3 something, I guess



 Originally Posted By: Log Cabin Lewey
...It is not only for the fact that your wrist would need serious orthopedic attention, but the Neuro Surgeons would be at a loss for words how a weapon could not only crack the cranium, but also wedge itself halfway through the gray matter...


Eh eh, probably you're right again my friend: even if in Italy health right is recognized as free for all, I guess I will not challenge the fate... and my joints!

But, put my firm intention to buy a big bore BFR, which and in which caliber you suggest me?


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Re: 500 S/W vs 50 ALASKAN ?? [Re: fastguns] #39217 11/14/2008 10:51 PM
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Thanks for your suggestions Log.
At the moment I have an Old Model Vaquero in .44 Magnum, and now I reload .44 Magnum and .45 Long Colt, while I've reloaded .454 Casull too, becaude I've owned a Super Redhawk in this caliber. I had another in .480 Ruger, but I've never reloaded .480 (in fact I've sold it after few months).
Only problem I have with .500 S&W Magnum is that it's not legal in Italy, so I can't take a piece in this caliber, except for the Tanfoglio Raptor, but I don't like too much that kind of gun. So I would want to know, among other big bore calibers chambered into BFR revolvers (.45-70, .444 or .450 Marlin, or other custom), which is in your opinion the best choice?
Thanks again Log, and sorry if I'm annoying you.


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