Oh, come on PAB1, put that picture of your target on here! One tatered hole ... I think the people who complained are just jelous! TCHUNTER99, I loaded up some rounds using H332. About 51grn was the most accurate if I remember corectley. I am going to try H4198 though. I have not hunted with my 45-70 yet, but plan to this year. I did get my load data from the TC loading manuel.