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338 VVC
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02/05/2010 4:29 AM
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Anyone else here shot a 338 VVC?
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Re: 338 VVC
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#64039
02/05/2010 4:53 AM
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45- 70 case necked down to 338 in a shortened 338 win mag die.
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/05/2010 6:20 AM
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A friend of mine has had one for near 25 years. Took his biggest buck with it I believe. It is really similar to the 338JDJ in performance. I have one of the loaded rounds on my desk....as a paper weight
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/05/2010 8:31 AM
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RE: Quote from SSK Industries: "The 309, 8 mm, 338 #2, 358, 375 and 416 JDJ are based on the very strong 444 Marlin case..."
I see no reason to go with the VVC over the JDJ as I do not know who VVC is but am very familiar with the JDJ line of cartridges and their reputation.
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/05/2010 12:17 PM
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To answer your question... no... All I can tell you is that Reeder tried a 375 in the 45-70 case and found that he couldn't take to the same velocity as the 375 JDJ. (The 45-70 case made the chamber walls too thin and he couldn't take it to the same pressure levels.) The 444 Case really optimizes the Contender plate forum. However, I have a funny fealing that really doesn't help you. LOL
Runngun, I completely understand your point of view. But just because you haven't heard of it doesn't meant it doesn't merit any thought.
In a Contender I would lean towards JDJ's rounds of the 444 case. In the Encore... I would look at Reeder's rounds of the 405 Win case. I really like the use and ease of a rimmed round in the Encore. JMHO though...
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/05/2010 12:50 PM
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Gimme a .338 JDJ No. 2. Out of curiosity, is it .338 WC or .338 V V C for the now defunct and re-named Virgin Valley?
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/05/2010 4:21 PM
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Its a 338 V V C Im shooting it out of a Encore.
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/05/2010 10:29 PM
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I'm having a 416 Barnes Competitor built. The 416 Barnes is a 45/70 case necked down to 416. Ballistically it has greater velocity and more terminal energy than the 416 JDJ, which is based on the 444 marlin case. Go figure!
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/05/2010 10:29 PM
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Interesting... I bet you could use 338 JDJ data and work you way up.
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/06/2010 2:25 AM
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A couple of my 338 VVC loads
BULLET POWDER PRIMER CASE VELOCITY 200gr AA-4350 Fed 215 Rem 2523 fps Hornady 62.5 gr
160gr AA-4350 Fed 215 Rem 2570 BarnesX 63.0 gr Both of these loads average about 1 inch
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/06/2010 3:30 AM
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From what I can tell the 338VVC shoots a 200 gr. bullet 223 fps faster than the 338 JDJ.(Average 338 JDJ load).
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/06/2010 6:17 PM
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Barrel length will account for some of the difference in velocity.14 inch 338JDJ vs 16 inch 338 VVC.
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Re: 338 VVC
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02/06/2010 7:36 PM
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It should be more than 60-100 fps deference... shouldn't be...
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