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"Cast" your ballot #67407 03/31/2010 7:24 PM
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No opinions or explanations (we'll get to that later)...just a straight up choice if you had to choose only one type of bullet.

CAST (Cast bullet)

-OR-

XTP (XTP style hollow point bullet)


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: guitarpicva] #67408 03/31/2010 7:31 PM
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No naked boolits!


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: s4s4u] #67409 03/31/2010 7:35 PM
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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: wapitirod] #67410 03/31/2010 7:43 PM
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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: wapitirod] #67411 03/31/2010 7:44 PM
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NECKED!I like necked...bullets too.


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: guitarpicva] #67413 03/31/2010 7:45 PM
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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: ClayFHT] #67414 03/31/2010 7:47 PM
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Cast with a big, honkin' meplat -- particularly in the bigger calibers (.475 on up) where expansion is absolutely uneeded!

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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Whitworth] #67418 03/31/2010 8:24 PM
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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Franchise] #67422 03/31/2010 8:55 PM
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They both have there places but if i could only choose one it would have to be cast.

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: wheelguns] #67424 03/31/2010 9:57 PM
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CAST, CAST, OR CAST...

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: guitarpicva] #67426 03/31/2010 10:09 PM
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Cast hands down .I did not realize people still used that jacketed stuff

Kidding of course, no hate mail please !!!!

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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Fowler] #67427 03/31/2010 10:19 PM
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Cast...XTP...Cast...XTP...errr...CAST!

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: az_shooter] #67428 03/31/2010 10:40 PM
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XTP... for now....


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Tigger] #67433 03/31/2010 11:13 PM
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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Tigger] #67434 03/31/2010 11:19 PM
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XTP!!!!!

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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: junebug] #67441 04/01/2010 12:06 AM
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XTP for me


If it jams force it! If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Fowler] #67443 04/01/2010 12:10 AM
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XTP.

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: 500WE] #67444 04/01/2010 1:05 AM
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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Russell] #67445 04/01/2010 1:38 AM
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It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger squeeze.
Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Fowler] #67446 04/01/2010 1:41 AM
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Cast Boolits yes...
A couple of RangerRicks are in this pic..



And my 45 Colt hunting boolit. 355gr lubed with gc.





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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Snyd] #67458 04/01/2010 1:29 PM
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So far 12 XTP - 7 Cast

Keep 'em comin' (if you have an opinion)!


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If the LORD is God, follow him; ... 1 Kings 18
Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: guitarpicva] #67459 04/01/2010 1:33 PM
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CAST.

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: guitarpicva] #67460 04/01/2010 1:34 PM
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 Originally Posted By: guitarpicva
So far 12 XTP - 7 Cast

Keep 'em comin' (if you have an opinion)!


Outnumbered, but not out-gunned......


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: edwardkfolmar] #67463 04/01/2010 5:03 PM
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........xtp.........


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: edwardkfolmar] #67465 04/01/2010 5:06 PM
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 Originally Posted By: edwardkfolmar
out numbered and out gunned.XTP


Perhaps if you're shooting one of those little .429 magnums -- in which case I even like the XTP, but they don't make an XTP in .510........LOL!

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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Whitworth] #67468 04/01/2010 7:24 PM
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cast vs. xtp, the new Ford vs. Chevy......XTP!

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: wizzard] #67469 04/01/2010 7:33 PM
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Looks like Hornady's got all of you on their payroll -- LOL!
\:D


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Whitworth] #67470 04/01/2010 7:47 PM
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This might have something to do with the critters we all want to shoot. Here in Alaska last thing I want to do is fling a 300gr expanding bullet at a griz or a 1500lb Alaska Yukon Moose. I want total penetration no matter what the angle or how much bone it hits. Not as big a deal with a whitetail. If you do this same pole over here http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/ you'd probably see different results.

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Snyd] #67471 04/01/2010 8:09 PM
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They've taken some pretty heavy duty animals with the big XTP Mags, they don't just blow apart like you may think. I may be wrong but I believe edwardkfolmar had mentioned on earlier post that he had taken big critters with them but don't quote me on that he'll have to say for sure. Now in all fairness I do load hard cast for my 500 Linebaugh as Hawk makes the only jacketed bullet I know of and I keep a box or two loaded for my 475's but I never shoot them and they are sighted in with XTP's and I do load cast for one of my 45-70 rifles.

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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: edwardkfolmar] #67474 04/01/2010 8:58 PM
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Well said Ed


I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. John Wayne-The Shootist


Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: wapitirod] #67475 04/01/2010 9:34 PM
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just to be safe:



CASKETED







Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Gregg Richter] #67476 04/01/2010 9:35 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Gregg Richter
just to be safe:



CASKETED


Haha!! Smart man!


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Gregg Richter] #67478 04/01/2010 11:17 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Gregg Richter
.....CASKETED


That's southern for "six foot under".
;\)


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: KRal] #67484 04/02/2010 12:06 AM
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XTP

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: KRal] #67485 04/02/2010 12:08 AM
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Cast.

Though most "westerners" may believe the stigma that "easterners" are thin, lily livered liberals with spectacles, pencil necks and inhalers - truth is true native conservative "yankees" have been hunting big deer, bears, and moose since the the Norsemen first came down the the Newfoundland coast 200 years before the Mayflower was even built across the pond.
I don't personally know even one deer, bear, or moose hunter in these parts who would even fleetingly consider any type of hollow point bullet for hunting big game. In fact, most use one type of jacketed softpoint or another in calibers like 30-30, .35 Remington, .308 Winchester, 30-06, 444 Marlin, and 45-70.
I know very few handgun hunters up here who take it as seriously and have stuck with it for as long as I have, but the ones that I do know are using heavy hard cast or jacketed softpoints in their revolvers, and jacketed softpoints in their TC's.
I know that I wasn't supposed to "justify" my vote yet, but after seeing all of the hoopla for the XTP, I just can't understand the tally.
Then again I don't have nearly the "shooting" credentials as many members here. But, I do think of myself as a well rounded eastern deer "hunter".
\:\)


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: 460man] #67486 04/02/2010 12:11 AM
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In all seriousness though... given the exact parameters of the original post:


ahhh...

well..??

but....

oh -ell

What day?







Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Gregg Richter] #67488 04/02/2010 12:24 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Gregg Richter
In all seriousness though... given the exact parameters of the original post:


ahhh...

well..??

but....

oh -ell

What day?


Dont forget:


What game?


What caliber?


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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Whitworth] #67491 04/02/2010 12:58 AM
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See, I knew it was too easy a question... now that makes it even harder....

err...

oh, if...well how 'bout a different boolit in each chamber...?

Just playin...no harm meant!..
......

Well no not really, this is actually a pretty darn honest answer...

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Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Fowler] #67494 04/02/2010 1:09 AM
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CAST !!!

Re: "Cast" your ballot [Re: Gregg Richter] #67495 04/02/2010 1:15 AM
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I guess I don't understand the logic/advantage behind a hollowpoint/expanding bullet for a handgun, 357, 44, 45, 460, 475, 480 or 500. For self defense of 2 legged critters it's so the bullet will not penetrate all they way through. But, don't we want max penetration in a hunting round? Secondly, in rifles, the point behind an expanding bullet is to make a larger wound channel. A .452 or larger WFN boolit is as as big around when it makes contact as a .30 cal is after it expands. But, a rifle bullet has the fps behind it to penetrate. But, most handgun calibers don't. Why do I want say a .451 300gr hollowpoint that will expand and possibly not penetrate, as opposed to a 350gr .452 that will penetrate most any fur and bone for several feet.

I've got some 300gr XTP's and I cast 275, 325 and 350gr LFN and WFN's but I cannot come up with any advantage the XTP HP would have for hunting or bear protection in full house 45 Colt or 454 rounds. But I can come up with disadvantages. Am I missing something? Again, I'm not hunting whitetails.

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