400gr speer
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05/18/2010 2:33 AM
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have some of these lying around for the 480 ruger was going to load them up. anybody ever tried these?
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Re: 400gr speer
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05/18/2010 1:07 PM
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Haven't tried the 400, but I do like the 325 Speer. No reason why the 400 shouldn't work just fine.
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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05/19/2010 1:28 AM
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The Speer bullets should work fine. Contrary to what some of the bullet tests the guys on this site have done w/ this bullet on phone books, this is a quality bullet. Paper, dry or wet does not replicate flesh such as muscle tissue.
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Re: 400gr speer
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05/19/2010 4:32 AM
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Jeffx
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Swift A-Frame has a 300 grain bullet out know that I'm trying to get my hands on. Always had great luck with em, in my Rifles. I actually used a roadkill Deer that a guy brought me, it was too banged up to eat this past Jan. I set it up on my shooting range behind my house and did some .460 S&W bullet testing at a 100yds. The Deer froze soild over night, the next morning the .275 gr. Barnes X-panders Plowed rite thru both shoulders and 1" plywood backstop like nothing the bullet was never found in the dirt bank, IMHO thats even better than a wet or dry phone book anyday.
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Re: 400gr speer
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05/19/2010 1:06 PM
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well i loaded 100 of these hope to get out this weekend and see if the redhawk likes them.
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Re: 400gr speer
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05/20/2010 12:48 AM
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Jeff, Are you talking about the .44 or .45 caliber A-frame?? PS- thanks for the recent letter you sent......
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Re: 400gr speer
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05/31/2010 4:54 AM
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I have been doing a lot of reading about reloading for the 480, as well as searching the catalogs for components. The Speer Bullets are the cheapest jacketed bullets I have found. They are also rated higher than the XTP bullets from what I have found out. The Speer bullets are something like $20.79/50 while the last 400 XTP's my store got were marked $34.95/50. That is a very big difference. At $0.42 a bullet I can almost bring myself to buy bullets to reload. I am seriously considering the Speer 325 grain "Deep Curl" Bullets for my Deer Hunting Load. I believe the Speer 325 and 400 grain are an Expanding Soft Point with the new Deep Curl design. I presume that means they petal out on impact.
On the Graf and Son web site I found Speer 480 brass today in stock $32.99/100. That is cheaper than Starline, and MUCH cheaper than Hornady. Wish I had found this out sooner, I just bought 300 pieces of Hornady brass. I think I will get a couple hundred pieces of Speer brass bought up shortly just to have on hand.
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Re: 400gr speer
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05/31/2010 10:16 PM
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MS Hitman
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I have put a 400 grain Speer through a cow elk. While it is a jacketed bullet, it did not expand much at all.
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Re: 400gr speer
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06/03/2010 3:18 PM
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Bob Roach
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Looks like Speer has the 275 Gold Dot HP and 325 SP DeepCurl listed for 480 Ruger, and the 400 SP DeepCurl listed for 475 Linebaugh. I believe this is the same story as with the Hornady XTP bullets. The 400's need a little more speed than a 480 Ruger to work best. I have a box of 400 XTP's I will probably shoot up in practice some day, as I do not have anyone handy that I know of with a 475 Linebaugh to trade them to.
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Re: 400gr speer
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06/03/2010 9:28 PM
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The 400's need a little more speed than a 480 Ruger to work best.
That big bullet doesn't "need" to work. If it goes all the way through without expanding, fine, just like a solid or "cast" would. Give them a try before you give up on them.
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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Re: 400gr speer
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06/23/2010 8:44 PM
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The information sheet on the 400 gr. Speer bullet states that little, or no, expansion will be experienced in the 480 Ruger. In effect, it performs pretty much like a hard case bullet.
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