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Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. #77966 11/14/2010 3:33 AM
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I have the stocks, barrel for my Encore and was able to by some ammo on Monday. I just was able to shoot it this morning (due to work school). Just a few rounds for me and the wife, I dont have the scope or rings as of yet and the wife had been wanting to shoot it. I noticed that 4 or 5 of the rounds when put in the chamber and closed. Will load correctly, but will not allow the hammer to be pulled back??? On My way to work soon and didn't have time to check it out good. Any Ideas??? Oh by the way a thank you!!! To all who talk about the .480 on this forum, I had read pages and pages on this cartrage on this forum and am thankful to the fine folks that recomend it!! Have not been able to test it out good as of yet, but I do think it will be a fine round.


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: Fan of the 1911] #77981 11/14/2010 3:44 PM
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Mike Bellm probably has the answer, beings he works with these pieces.


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: johnwilliams] #77986 11/14/2010 7:38 PM
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had a 3006 do this in a encore the case was bypassing the ejector.sent it back got new barrel.


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: johnwilliams] #78022 11/15/2010 2:34 PM
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 Originally Posted By: johnwilliams
Mike Bellm probably has the answer, beings he works with these pieces.


I also suspect a head space issue. My Encore ML has issues with some brands of 209 primers. Only about 1 in 10 Winchester primers will work, but all CCI's do. CCI primers seem to be a bit flatter


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: guitarpicva] #78055 11/15/2010 8:30 PM
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Same thing happens to my Encore if it's not closed "all" the way. Sometimes it will close, and seem like it is snapped all the way shut, but the hammer will not pull back. If I close it with just a tiny bit more snap it solves the problem every time.

Just to make sure it doesnt happen in the field, I will pull back the hammer after loading the gun, and then lower the hammer. That way i know i will have no trouble when it is time to take a shot.

NOTE: I know you already know this, but I had to say it anyway. Make sure the gun is pointed in a safe direction when cocking and uncocking in case the hammer were to slip off your thumb.

Only happens when I close my gun too slowly.

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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: minnesotahunter] #78058 11/15/2010 9:11 PM
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It maybe that I was closing it to softly. I'm most always a big or bigger hammer kind of guy but when it comes to guns I guess out of respect for them I'm kind of easy with guns. Next dry day I have off I may play a with it a little more. The times after the hammer wouldn't go back I used a different shell and it closed right up, and hhe hammer came right back. I was mostly wondering about ammo issues with the pistol as this is my first Encore pistol.


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: minnesotahunter] #78080 11/16/2010 1:06 PM
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 Originally Posted By: minnesotahunter
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Just to make sure it doesnt happen in the field, I will pull back the hammer after loading the gun, and then lower the hammer. That way i know i will have no trouble when it is time to take a shot.
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Ditto...no matter what, I safely work that hammer once I am loaded. Nothing is more frustrating than having a shot and not being able to pull the hammer back!


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: guitarpicva] #78111 11/16/2010 10:31 PM
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You do need to shut the encores and contenders with some authority on a loaded round or the hammer will not stay cocked.
On bottle necked cases in my contender this is what I want as it shows a good shoulder fit and minimun case stretch.If you ever get an older model contender be aware that the hammer cannot be recocked after letting it down ,the action has to be broken down to reset the trigger.The encore and G2 do not.


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: junebug] #78152 11/17/2010 5:25 AM
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It could be a headspace issue causing the problem but normally a cocking problem will be tied to the locking mechanism, like junebug said you have to shut them with authority sometimes. Mike Bellm is definitely a good guy to go to for info. After the first of the year I'll be a dealer for him and I'll be carrying and installing his parts. Just something to keep in mind if you have to send it in unless you just send it back to TC.

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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: wapitirod] #80344 12/25/2010 1:13 AM
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I have played with it some more and I'm still at a loss as to what is going on. I mounted my scope and shot it a 5 or so more times. On the bullets that the hammer will not cock on the edge of the brass seems to have a rough spot on the bullet side of the case rim and edge. The ones that have the problen it doesn't matter how many times I close it or with how much authority.


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: Fan of the 1911] #80345 12/25/2010 3:48 AM
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Is this the only barrel that has a problem with that frame?


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: s4s4u] #80349 12/25/2010 4:29 AM
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Yes only this barrel, but the other 3 barrels I have are rifles .204, .25-06, and .300 win mag. I don't know if that makes a difference? I have never had any problems with the frame. I Think it's the ammo ones that fit drop right in and close easy. The ones that don't work have resistance at just as the rim hits and when I remove them the rim of the case has a burr, I may have to mic a few rounds and see whats going on.
William.


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: Fan of the 1911] #80353 12/25/2010 6:09 AM
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Have you used the handgun grip with any other barrel on that frame? There have been issues with the length of the bolt used with the handgun grip on some T/C's. Perhaps your's is too long?

I'm no eggspurt but if it is too long it seems to upset the lockwork, or so I've heard, FWIW.

You might try adding a washer or two to space the bolt head out a little when you install the pistol grip.

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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: Fan of the 1911] #80358 12/25/2010 5:53 PM
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Welcome to the world of TC's. I sold all of mine!

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Sounds like a case of long brass or thick rims .Mike the rims and oal on your cases that won't go and compare to the ones that will.Have you had the gun apart and checked for burrs or shaveings in the action? You should check for burrs or shaveings
under the ejector too.Since the cartridge headspaces on the rim your problem is most likely brass related.


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Re: Hornady amo problems in Encore .480 Ruger. [Re: junebug] #80392 12/26/2010 1:49 AM
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I'll check all of the above in the next week. I'm off of work and school for a week I'm going to try do do some of the honey do list. Cast some of 4 different bullets, work up a load for one and I may get to go hog hunting late next week for the first time. If I can get my list done(Or started good).


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Good luck with the hogs and the honeydo's


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