 357 Maximum loads??
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I bought an unfired Ruger 357 Maximum recently mainly just to have but, I plan on using it. My question is I know about the problems with "flame-cutting". I've read that it was because of light bullets loaded at extreme speeds. Is this true? Does any one have any "Long-gunlife" loads that still let me benefit from having the maximum cartridge? I'd like to use 158xtp's.
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11/28/2010 1:49 AM
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Thats what I have read also,Glen Fryxell has an article on it,using cast bullets of course,but he says using the heavier slugs doesn't flame cut any worse than any other revolver,I think Mike Bellm has several articles on this round but more on using the round in single shots than revolvers.
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six,
The "flame-cutting" issue was blown way out of proportion. Yes it does occur, generally with the lighter bullets and "hotter" powders; however, it is "self" limited. You get several thousandths deep into the topstrap and it stops. The Super Blackhawk frames, US Firearms, and Dan Wessons could and can handle it, without issue. It is more of a cosmetic issue than any other. If you load for it, I recommend the 180-200 grain bullets for hunting. I've shot many hundreds of 158s,180s, and 200s jacketed and cast up to 200 grains with no problems. In Dan Wessons, Rugers, US Firearms, Wichita, and Contenders. The single shots have never been an issue. It is a great round and like many others seems to have had a "near death" experience. Excluding those of us who have learned to appreciate it!
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180 grains & up? You mentioned using 158 grains. Did you have any problems with them? I'd like to use them due to bullet availability. Do you think I would have any problems using 158xtps over a medium load of titegroup? The gun is unfired and I want to avoid the flame cutting as much as possible but I'll start with those 180 or 200gr bullets if you think it's best. Thanks!! - Matt
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12/05/2010 1:06 AM
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Matt,
You shouldn't have any problems with the 158s of any type and a medium load. Again, it tended to arise when silhouette folks were trying to drive lighter (think 110s, 125s, 140s) with heavy loads of the "slow burning" powders, H110, WW296, etc. I've shot many hundreds of 158s, jacketed and cast, with hotter loads then you plan on using with no issues. The 180s and 200s are the ticket for hunting medium sized game (whitetail, hogs). You might want to get some of the Remington or Winchester bulk 158s and 180s jacketed. Being "bulk" you can get them at a much better price than buying in the 100 boxes.
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12/05/2010 2:53 PM
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six,
The "flame-cutting" issue was blown way out of proportion. Yes it does occur, generally with the lighter bullets and "hotter" powders; however, it is "self" limited. You get several thousandths deep into the topstrap and it stops. The Super Blackhawk frames, US Firearms, and Dan Wessons could and can handle it, without issue. It is more of a cosmetic issue than any other. If you load for it, I recommend the 180-200 grain bullets for hunting. I've shot many hundreds of 158s,180s, and 200s jacketed and cast up to 200 grains with no problems. In Dan Wessons, Rugers, US Firearms, Wichita, and Contenders. The single shots have never been an issue. It is a great round and like many others seems to have had a "near death" experience. Excluding those of us who have learned to appreciate it!
Doc This is true. I used a heavy bullet for IHMSA and the flame cutting was minimal and does not hurt the gun. I used 4227 and it was super accurate. I wish I had kept the info for you but after selling the gun I tossed my loads.
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