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Let's Go to Hungary! #80400 12/26/2010 2:07 AM
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I've been very fortunate to have had the opportunity to have hunted in several countries in Europe: In Spain 3 times for red stag, wild boar, pyrenean chamois and roe deer; in France for mouflon sheep; in Slovenia for alpine chamois; and most recently in Hungary in 2002 for roe deer.
Roe deer are probably the most popular big game animal in Europe. They are very wary, and bark when they are alerted. They may stand up to about 30-36" high at the shoulder and weigh up to about 70-75 lbs. max. Fifty to sixty pounds may be more typical in most areas. Mature bucks will have 2 or 3 points to the side, with main beams up to about 11" in length. The largest will have very heavy bases, called "coronets", and will be heavily gnarled or "pearled" at the bases.
Perhaps the best time to hunt roe deer is between early April and mid-May. Crop fields have been recently planted, but crops have not yet grown high enough to obscure the game. This time of year can present some wonderful scenery.


On my first morning of hunting, my guide Attila and I spotted a marauding fox in a crop field and Attila asked me if I would shoot it. Pheasant hunting is big business in Hungary and farmers are anxious to kill any predator foxes. I shot the fox offhand leaning against Attila at 85 yards with my 14" .257 JDJ Contender equipped with a Bushnell 3200 2-6 X scope.


We spent much of our first day in rain and heavy fog. We could see groups of roe deer from time to time, but in those conditions it was impossible to judge them.
On our second day of hunting, after several long mud-crawling but unsuccessful efforts earlier in the day, I shot this fine old 3X3 roebuck at about 125 yards with the .257 JDJ, after a long and difficult stalk. He was heavily pearled with very heavy coronets. Also shown in the photo are guides Bertie (L) and Attila (R).


Hungary is blessed with rich fertile dark earth. That's what farmers call it. Hunters may be more inclined to call it "damned muddy", based on my experience. Knee high rubber boots and a willingness to crawl long distances in the mud are part of the hunting sport here.
I was fortunate to take another fine old roebuck on this hunt, once again after a long and challenging stalk. Caught flatfooted in an open field I was forced into a quick shot at 125 yards with the .257 JDJ. This 3X3 roebuck is also very heavily pearled with heavy coronets and main beams a bit longer than the first one.


After the hunt my wife Kay and I spent a bit of time in Budapest.

We also later spent time in Vienna and Prague.

Well, guys and gals, without wishing to become overconfident about this picture posting stuff, I believe I've just about got it figured out. I'm done for a while!
Merry Christmas!
Ken


Re: Let's Go to Hungary! [Re: 500WE] #80401 12/26/2010 2:15 AM
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Excellent Ken!







Re: Let's Go to Hungary! [Re: Gregg Richter] #80402 12/26/2010 2:27 AM
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Enjoyed the tour!! Thanks!


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Thanks for sharing the story and photos.

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Re: Let's Go to Hungary! [Re: Larry in SD] #80406 12/26/2010 5:15 AM
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I see the evergreen in the hat. Did they do the entire ritual of the letztbissen? I really like the history and reverence that the old ways show to the game that you pursue. I'm enjoying the stories and pictures Ken! Thanks. GS

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Really great pics and stories behing all of them, Ken, Really enjoy them and greqt job hunting and shooting!

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An excellent story on your experiences. I am curious as to how you were recieved as a specialty handgun hunter.Handgun hunting is a very unique American sport thus I wonder how the guides viewed your choice of arm. Thanks

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Glenn, it's not apparent in these photos, but each roebuck also has a bit of greenery in their mouth. The formality of this tradition varies a bit from country to country where I've hunted in Europe, but the basics are mostly the same. The only place I've enjoyed the full blown party with horn blowing was in France after I shot a CIC Gold Medal mouflon. I will post a photo at some point when I have time.
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Ken

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 Originally Posted By: bigbore442001
An excellent story on your experiences. I am curious as to how you were recieved as a specialty handgun hunter.Handgun hunting is a very unique American sport thus I wonder how the guides viewed your choice of arm. Thanks


I've always been well received. I always like to check my guns at 100 yards before I begin hunting after such a long trip overseas. Most pretend to be casual about it, but I notice that the results are always closely observed. So, I'm careful to shoot good groups, and that has always satisfied the observers - guides, landowners, etc. Many have later asked for a round of ammo to commemorate the occasion. In the case of my hunt in Hungary, I took 2 of the fellows shooting with my .257 JDJ the day after the hunting was complete.

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Glenn, here are a couple photos of our celebration in France



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Great story and photos!

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Yes, awesome hunt and great stories. I have very much enjoyed all your postings and photos. I'm glad you learned the photo posting; guess you can teach old dogs new tricks.
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Thanks for sharing...looks like a very special time


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Re: Let's Go to Hungary! [Re: Anniex] #80455 12/27/2010 5:23 AM
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Thanks Ken. I looked last night when I asked but I didn't see the greenery in the mouth which is why I was curious. I just think the reverence and respect for the animals is great. I know that most of us have a "ritual" or whatever you may want to call it but that one is really neat to me. Thanks again! GS


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It's been my pleasure.


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