Has anyone used a 30TC in an Encore 14in barrel for deer. Ihave this in an encore rifle and also Icon. just love this shell

I think the plethora of .30 rounds out there, makes another average .30 look kind of redundant. People who generally like the older .30s are not apt to buy into another, and those who use the the 'new and exotic' rounds don't want the average round, especially a new average. I personally don't expect the 30TC to stand the test of time. The only new .30 that I've seen strike interest is the 30 AR round produced to fit the AR action like a 223. It probably is a good round, but looked at as a novelty. If you love it, then happy hunting, and use it. Most people just say 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it.'

Oh and welcome to the forum, Scooby. It is a great resource, so don't be afraid to bring up a topic! God bless, Al

Is it a rimmed case? Or, is that the new 30 cal Marlin.
Yeah, there are lots of 30's.
In a pistol, the ole 30-30 or AI will do about as much as can get done in a .308 bore, short tube and all. If you go 16" plus, you will see an advantage with the bigger cases but they just get louder and kick more in a shortie.

Howdy Scooby and Welcome Aboard!

I am with Al, I just stuck with the 06...

It is what you want really. Just think of it this way, you are going to loose 300fps (on average) when you go from rifle to pistol.

Bob Milek & Steve Herrett might disagree.
In a single shot weapon, their developements have stood the test of time!
Bless them

Jimmy

Howdy Gemihur! Welcome to the sight.

I think the greatest contributions that Milek and Herrett gave was their love to this wonderful sport. Without elders like them the fundamental groundwork wouldn’t have laid. From what I remember about the Herrett’s they were meant to optimize a 10in barrel. They did, in fact they out performed the 30-30 in a 10in barrel, which is what they were designed to do. But in a 14 or 15in barrel that is a different story. In fact you go to an entirely new playing field. Even more interesting, rounds like the 30-30 and 223 really started to shine and perform in a 14in barrel. Then you bring the Encore into the picture and you are into a new realm. I wonder what Milek and Herrett could have contributed or done with the Encore??? One can only imagine...

The 30-06 has stood the test of time and then some. When compared to all the culled cartridges that have disappeared in the last 100 years I would say 30-06 is very nostalgic. And how can you compare to a round that thousands of military personal have used in 4 different wars. Our vets came home after WWII and were buying 06's with out any hesitation for their sporting rifles because they new what they could do with them and what they were capable of first hand.

Rounds like the 30-06 and 375 H&H are just on another playing field IMHO...

You might look at the 307 before you opt for the 30 T/C

It is very close

I'm still a 30-06 man and probably always will be (in a rifle). It's the round that all others have been measured against for a great many years. There are others that I love as well, but for medium game, it's perfection.

I don’t like stepping on toes but I am afraid that I have already done that unfortunately. Frankly I could have handled that better and I owe you an apologize Gemihur. My wording could have very easily been misunderstood and for that I am sorry.

I didn’t realize that I went on a soapbox... I view the 30-06 as the Father and Grandfather of SO many cartridges today that I think even JDJ himself would have a hard time comparing. And I think that is saying something. But again, this is JMHO...


Something else for consideration. Do you handload? The 308 does very well for the handloader because they can customize the load for the shorter barrel. You might do the same for the 30 TC. EG, I can get 2800fps out of my 270 Win short gun with a 130gr projectile when I handload for it properly. Factory rounds don’t do as well. LOL

Welcome to the forum Jimmy. Scooby? I hope to hear your thoughts and please don't take any comments here personal. There are many opinions here, and I don't think anyone here means to offend.

Thanks Al!

My wife was reading over my shoulder yesterday and I glad she did. She usually fixes which witch is which, LOL. The computer doesn’t fix that. But luckily she asked what I was trying to say and suggested that I might want to reword a few things because they could be taken the wrong way. So I reread all the posts and tried to make my typing more comprehendible.

Just because you are the top poster NEVER makes you right, it just gives you more chances to screw up somewhere and offend a couple of new poster, right Al?

Hey, it happens. Type is much more apt to be misleading, since body language and tone are not present.

I see nothing "wrong" with the 30TC, but I don't know that I'd just "have to have one".

It wouldn't suprise me to see, in factory ammo, that it does quite well compared to the 308W and 30-06 in 14-15" bbls, in terms of ballistic performance.

I'd own one if I found a deal on one, but probably wouldn't just set out to purchase one.

Regards,

Rog

I'd like to see some real world ballistics on it. It's probably a good round and I don't mean to knock it. It may be that it outperforms the other 30s in an encore, and that would be great. If it does then it may find it's place in the specialty pistol realm.

Try this and subtract 300 to figure out your 15in shortgun velocity...

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

We can split hairs and overanalyze, LOL, but it would do just fine in a handgun. To me it looks like it would launch a 150 projectile at 2500fps+/-

There is a guy who sells them on Gunbroker & Auction Arms for $175 plus $15 shipping. He is the one I ordered my .30-06 barrel from. They are new but old stock.

Gota link???

I put alot of truck in all the wisdom you shooters bring to the table. I only dabble in the sport but take a special feeling in the reloading of a wildcat and harvesting a wily whitetail with a stumpy little 357 Herrett.
I've been using archery tackle more of late but my heart lifts with the smell of powder burning.
This new 30TC seems to be long action performance in a short throw case. Encores must be used to handle those pressures and I'm heavily invested in the original Contender.. under 45000 cup only. ahh but I can dream
thanks guys
Jimmy

Gemihur, If you are a archery hunter at heart hunting with any sort of firearm is going to seam almost like cheating to you!

PS, we like eye candy so if you get a chance can you post a picture of your 357 Herrett on the bragging board???

I forget what type of pressure the Encore can handle, but it does very well with 308 & 30-06 based rounds. The will handle a 375 H&H but I do believe that is about the extent of its capabilities. I consider the “max” loads for my 375 to be 100fps under those listed for a bolt action. They have the ability to stretch the frame if you try to “push” it. The Encore has done wonders for the sport because it can be chambered in so many wonderful rounds that you can buy right of the shelf.

Actually the .30 TC has slightly less case capacity than the .308 Win. The .30 TC has about 54 grains of water capacity and the .308 has about 56. This comes from Hornady. They developed the round. I called them for the particulars before I boutgh my '06 barrel.

GunBroker

Auction Arms

Just go to either one & type in Encore Pistol. That will bring up barrels and other things.

Hornady can do things with propellants that we cannot. If they need a bullet to reach maximum potential within 18" of barrel, they do it. But you won't get those numbers with any powder on your bench. I think the case is nicely sized for a 15" barrel, but there are already a bunch that can do that. In an Encore I would lean toward the 307 Winny myself, for the rim if nothing else.

Thanks to all who replyed.about the 30t/c .I have a7mm mag 12"t/c custom barrel,for one of my encores.I'm getting 7mm08 numbers. works good on alabama whitetail.