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Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? #100647 01/18/2012 8:13 PM
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Right now my heaviest recoiling handgun is my 25-06 encore pistol. However im contemplating getting a 15 inch 450/400 nitro express barrel for my encore to go with my encore. I just want to be able to say i have a nitro express hangun lol. So what is your biggest caliber you have or heard of in a handgun?

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heard of in a handgun


There is that infamous video of the guy shooting a 600 Nitro Encore pistol and it flying over his shoulder from recoil. My heaviest is a 45/70 Contender.


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I would expect a big difference between your 25-06 & the 450/400. My heaviest recoiling single shot is probably a 338-06 JDJ. However, it has a brake on it. The 375 JDJ without a brake and with 270 gr bullets produces more felt recoil to me.

In revolvers currently 454s. However, I am awaiting the 475 from Rod & the 500 WE from Bob.

I have fired both the 500 S&W and 50 AK in encores and the 500 S&W in a BFR. Without brakes they will get your attention.

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 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
My heaviest is a 45/70 Contender.


Me too......it matches up closely with my T/C 14" .444 Marlin and 14" .375JDJ


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Re: Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? [Re: wtroper] #100653 01/18/2012 8:44 PM
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458 Win mag, I know of other 450/400's and although the performance is less than the 458 the benefit is the rimmed case which of course works better in the T/C platforms. The 600 in the video is the largest I've heard of.


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Re: Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? [Re: wtroper] #100654 01/18/2012 8:45 PM
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This one right here is the heaviest recoiler I have and have ever shot. It weighs 4-lbs and shoots a 525 just under 1,600 fps. You need a hardhat and a saddle to shoot it:



My next two kickers are my SRH in .500 Linebaugh which weighs a couple of ounces shot of 3-lbs, but right behind it is my 4-inch Redhawk in .454.





This one (BFR in .500 JRH) is bad when the 425s and 440s hit about 1,450.



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Re: Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? [Re: Whitworth] #100657 01/18/2012 8:53 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
This one right here is the heaviest recoiler I have and have ever shot. It weighs 4-lbs and shoots a 525 just under 1,600 fps. You need a hardhat and a saddle to shoot it:






Yep that baby will get ones attention for sure and for certain

Here is a friend of mine shooting that one at a Linebaugh seminar




Yes sir firing 525's near 1600 FPS in light frame revolver is like being invited to your own private earth quake

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With the right (or wrong) ammo, my BFR in .45-70.

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My 444 marlin 14" contender

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375 Snipe-Tac (Chey-Tac Improved). Rear-Grip Specialty Pistol
150 grains of powder and a 370 grain bullet


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Re: Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? [Re: Ernie] #100664 01/18/2012 9:56 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Ernie
375 Snipe-Tac (Chey-Tac Improved). Rear-Grip Specialty Pistol
150 grains of powder and a 370 grain bullet


Sounds serious, Ernie! What does it weigh?


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Re: Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? [Re: Ernie] #100665 01/18/2012 10:23 PM
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Diameter of the head of the case is .637


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The one that hurts the worst is a 500 JRH - the one with the most recoil is a 416 Taylor.


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 Originally Posted By: Ernie
375 Snipe-Tac (Chey-Tac Improved). Rear-Grip Specialty Pistol
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The muzzle blast has to be of gargantuan proportions

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I have a 460 in a 15 inch Encore..........that thing eats my lunch!!!!!!

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Worst on single shots - my 475 JDJ in the Contender (45-70 straight-walled)

Revolver - 500WE, although the extremely heavy Corbon loads out of my 460 are no fun.

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the worst i have is a 44mag- several of them, guess I 'll just put on my apron and do up the dishes

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 Originally Posted By: SChunter
Worst on single shots - my 475 JDJ in the Contender (45-70 straight-walled)

Revolver - 500WE, although the extremely heavy Corbon loads out of my 460 are no fun.


CorBon's 395 grain load for the .460 is no picnic. I shot a bunch of those and used them on a couple of hogs.


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 Originally Posted By: HoggHunter
......guess I 'll just put on my apron and do up the dishes


Hahaha!!! I could help....not a fan of big kickers.


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Re: Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? [Re: Dan B.] #100681 01/19/2012 12:53 AM
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My 460 encore at 6 lbs is the worst.

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My Ruger 5 shot is a light revolver and when loaded with a 440gr full power, cast bullet load it sure can be a "headfull"...


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44mag revolver with max loaded 240's and a 14" 35rem contender with 180's is plenty for me and have any reasonable comfort to shoot several rounds.
going from 120's to 154's in the 7-08 encore was very noticable! been a while. still have unfinished load work.....ugh.

those "recoil lovers" should consider long term damage to hands/wrists etc....IF you actually shoot them much. my right wrist hurts now if i try to bend it to it's max position. had a few days a while back where i could not use my hand. a real scare! doctors didn't fully determine, but you KNOW recoil does not help. i can shoot now, but who knows what the future holds.

disable yourself gentlemen. just think how fun handguns would be then. hey....you can always read about it.....

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 Originally Posted By: HoggHunter
the worst i have is a 44mag- several of them, guess I 'll just put on my apron and do up the dishes


Hahaha - nothing wrong with a 44 Magnum. I have never killed anything that a 44 Magnum wouldn't kill with the right bullet in the right place.


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My 416 Barnes recoils with a little more punch than my 376 Steyr, but still not that bad. The biggest round that is put in the Competitor pistols is the 470 Capstick; with a 600 gr. bullet I can only imagine how bad the recoil would be.


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My FA .500 Wyoming Express.

Here is a post I made with a slo-mo video of Fowler shooting it.

http://www.handgunhunt.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=2058&ppuser=872







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 Originally Posted By: Franchise
My 416 Barnes recoils with a little more punch than my 376 Steyr, but still not that bad. The biggest round that is put in the Competitor pistols is the 470 Capstick; with a 600 gr. bullet I can only imagine how bad the recoil would be.


I have a customer that has a 470NE in an Encore.


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My buddy's T/C in .416 Taylor has been in my safe for a couple years now. It's his "pig gun". It's not mine but I've shot it a few times - does that count?

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It is impressive.
First day out I shot it 25 times at one time.
Here is the first two times I fired it. It was really windy outside that day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpvoURwOkSM



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Re: Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? [Re: wtroper] #100725 01/19/2012 5:48 AM
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For sure the 450/400 would be more recoil than the 25-06 but ive seen 458 win mags that had muzzle breaks that looked pretty controlable. I also have some 450/400 black powder load data that would bee pretty cool to see that big billow of white smoke come rolling out the other end. With a muzzle break the 450/400 will probably be pretty managable plus it the smallest nitro express round and the cheapest to reload for.

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I have a .25-06 and really enjoy it. Its recoil is pretty mild. I don't have anything thats horrible to shoot. My 15" Encore 500 S&W with a 385 gr bullet at 1700 fps would probably be the worst. It has as much energy at 200 yards as many .454 Casull loads have at the muzzle. My .45-70 barrels would come in second with 300 gr bullets at 1900 fps. Nothing close to what some of you guys are shooting.


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Re: Whats your heaviest recoiling handgun? [Re: matt52] #100728 01/19/2012 6:34 AM
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The 450/400 is no cream puff by any means but it's about 200fps slower than the 458. The 450/400 is an old cartridge and it's brass isn't up to what the newer belted mags can take but like I said the nice thing is they eject easier. I agree too that owning a NE in a handgun is cool. I have plans to build one later this year but haven't decided on which one. The 458 Lott will come first, I know it's been chambered in Encore rifles but never heard of one in a handgun. I haven't talked to my customer about his 470 to find out what it's recoil is like. The one thing to consider with NE's is the cost of brass, the 450/400 isn't as bad since Hornady brought it back but some of the brass can approach 10.00 a piece and dies close to 300.00 which is why for a practical dangerous game cartridge I'm building the 458's.


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Hornady 300grn XTP's in .454 out of my 3" FA 83 Packer. After 2 shots I went and got a glove. After 2 cylinders, I went and got the .44
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I had to think about this for a while and frankly I am surprised by my answer. I have a few .500's, a .475, a .375-06 JDJ, and other various big kickers but I have to say that darn .44 MAG S&W Nightguard. It twists my arm and flat beats up my hand even with a glove on. Gun weight makes a real big difference!

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Found this photo of the .50 AK being shot.



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Hey Witworth anybody told you your not right shooting those things
. My worst one 454 Cassual Alaskan. Heavy loads pull the trigger and hope for the best.

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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
Hey Witworth anybody told you your not right shooting those things
. My worst one 454 Cassual Alaskan. Heavy loads pull the trigger and hope for the best.


Many times......


But that doesn't mean I listen!


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Yes, I think he is recoil sensitive
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 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
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heard of in a handgun


There is that infamous video of the guy shooting a 600 Nitro Encore pistol and it flying over his shoulder from recoil. My heaviest is a 45/70 Contender.


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