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Hunting with a Glock #112748 07/10/2012 12:19 AM
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I have had a few people question me about hunting with a Glock. Boys it has a short barrel and goes boom! That makes it a hunting tool. Really a stock glock in 10mm or .45 will work fine on whitetails and hogs but.............. it is hard to leave well enough alone.

The Glock I use started like as a 21SF Swat frame stock gun. Although it shot pretty good I felt limited. I know that part of handgun hunting is being intentionaly limited there are measures you can take to make things better. That was my plan for the Glock.

I read everything I could find about match set ups, componants and the cartridges that work in the 21 frame. I finally settle on the Storm Lake barrel. Its accuracy reputation was just better than the rest. The cartridge ended up being the .45 Super. A simple matter of changing barrel, rod,springs and brass and I could use many of my ACP componants. The cartridge can easily generate enough power for deer and hogs.

Next the trigger on a Glock is designed for one thing and it isn't hunting. After several trial and error things on the trigger my final set up is the Lone Wolf housing with adjustable stop, Ghost rocket connector, titanium safety plunger, siderlockt trigger and a 6lbs trigger spring. After polishing everything I have a 3# trigger that has very little overtravel and is very safe to draw from a holster in a tree stand.

When it all caome together the gun functions like a appliance and will shoot ragged holes at 25 yards. I am going to replace the sights to get a better picture for prescision shots. Recoil is quick and nasty with full power supers. It doesn't raise that much but it will eat the web of your hand up in about 50 shots.

My favorite configuration is actualy with a +p+ using the 19lbs spring. I have to used the 24lbs with the supers or will end up with a battered frame. The +p+ loads kill deer just fine and are very accurate.

My goal was a gun I could carry no matter how hard it was raining or anything else for that matter. I thing I have it perfected. Hope this answers any questions I didn't answer somewhere else. reflex264





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"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

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Looks to me it works just fine. Confidence in yourself and your gun is EVERYTHING.

Re: Hunting with a Glock [Re: reflex264] #112755 07/10/2012 12:32 AM
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Reflex,

Great post. While I do not care much for Glocks, I have gone a similar path with my 1911's and the Rowland conversion (1911). I also have worked up 45 Super loads, and those certainly are capable.

I have my FA in 454 and love it to pieces, but 1911's have always been near and dear to me. If it had not been for the Rowland conversion process, I probably would also be sporting a Glock. They have come a long way with aftermarket goodies, and it sounds like you have yours set up pretty nice. I got close to buying a used Desert Eagle in 44 mag a few years ago, but just could not pull the trigger on such a "large" gun. The 1911 platform as well as the Glock sure makes for a handy gun that you can wear all day long, and still have the gitty-up you want.

Looks like all you lack is the red dot rear, low melted into the slide, with the back-up irons in front :^)

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I carry my Glock a lot in a hip holster while hunting. I used it to finish off a 6-point whitetail my son shot in the spine. We thought the buck was dead, but it got up when we approached it and a 147 grain HP finished him off.


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Re: Hunting with a Glock [Re: Randominator] #112914 07/11/2012 12:44 AM
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For over two years I think I followed threads about hunters using Glocks on the Glock Forum. Plenty of guys out there going to 10 mm with 6 inch barrels and such. Dedicated hunting pistols for sure. Ballistically, they say the 10 mm is easily compared to the .41 magnum. I once had a S&W 610 6" inch pre-lock. I don't know why I sold that gun. It must of been an infarct of the brain.

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 Originally Posted By: sc1911cwp
For over two years I think I followed threads about hunters using Glocks on the Glock Forum. Plenty of guys out there going to 10 mm with 6 inch barrels and such. Dedicated hunting pistols for sure. Ballistically, they say the 10 mm is easily compared to the .41 magnum. I once had a S&W 610 6" inch pre-lock. I don't know why I sold that gun. It must of been an infarct of the brain.


But, will a semiauto shoot all the bullets a revolver will? SWC, hollow points of any kind? doubt the Glocks will generate near as much ME as a revolver either.
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 Originally Posted By: sc1911cwp
For over two years I think I followed threads about hunters using Glocks on the Glock Forum. Plenty of guys out there going to 10 mm with 6 inch barrels and such. Dedicated hunting pistols for sure. Ballistically, they say the 10 mm is easily compared to the .41 magnum. I once had a S&W 610 6" inch pre-lock. I don't know why I sold that gun. It must of been an infarct of the brain.


But will the Glock shoot all the different kinds of bullets a revolver will? SWCs, hollow points, trunkiated point? Is their ME equal?
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The important thing is will shoot the bullets that kill game just fine. One of my favorite bullets in the super is the 185 Nosler HP. We have shot them side by side with .41s, .44s and such like and they always put up a good show. Pentration is nearly as good as a 210gr JHP from a .41 mag but with a much larger wound channel. Here is a 185 next to a 210gr from a .41.


I am currently working with SWC, LFN and a LFNHP in the super. For deer and hogs out to 50 or so yards it works great. reflex264


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 Originally Posted By: S.B.
 Originally Posted By: sc1911cwp
For over two years I think I followed threads about hunters using Glocks on the Glock Forum. Plenty of guys out there going to 10 mm with 6 inch barrels and such. Dedicated hunting pistols for sure. Ballistically, they say the 10 mm is easily compared to the .41 magnum. I once had a S&W 610 6" inch pre-lock. I don't know why I sold that gun. It must of been an infarct of the brain.


But will the Glock shoot all the different kinds of bullets a revolver will? SWCs, hollow points, trunkiated point? Is their ME equal?
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Don't get me wrong, show me it will do these things and I may go this route with you?


ME is irrelevant. If the pistol is accurate and is using a bullet that will penetrate deeply, I would say he is in business. We may not care for the platform, but we cannot argue with results. JMHO.


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Without trying to start the heavy/slow v. light/fast debate, I can say that it is pretty easy to get a 250 grain class bullet working in the super (or my Rowland). So no, it is not the correct platform for 300 grain class and up type bullets, but as Reflex pointed out those are not needed in every situation.

As far as I am concerned, these conversions shine less when compared to a dedicated hunting revolver/singleshot/etc, but for the hunter who perhaps carries a Glock (1911) most of the rest of the time, there is something very "shiney" about a similar platform handling more chores. Or in my case, when I am at the ranch, I could be hunting, or I could be warding off large critters or two legged types, or running a chainsaw, or clearing roads or plinking or.....

It's not about having a single perfect gun for hunting, as it is about having a perfect gun that will do more things.

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Yep I like to try different things and this one is deffinately different. I have launched 255grs at 1130 and 230grs at 1350. I even read where one gent used a taurus tracker in .45 ACP shooting supers in it killed an elk. Sure I hunt with wheelguns as well but I still like to play and this is a cool toy. reflex264

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"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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 Originally Posted By: reflex264
Yep I like to try different things and this one is deffinately different. I have launched 255grs at 1130 and 230grs at 1350. I even read where one gent used a taurus tracker in .45 ACP shooting supers in it killed an elk. Shure I hunt with wheelguns as well but I still like to play and this is a cool toy. reflex264


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That's what it is all about. Having fun and being successful is iceing on the cake. Sometimes I just have to do something weird though. Having 800+ftlbs on tap from a Glock that shoots better than most revolvers should put a smile on a frownie face. It kills deer as good as any handgun I have ever seen including hitting them with over 2000ftlbs. It's all about the fun factor. reflex264


"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

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It's a different platform to say the least. I will not say it is not a good one as if you take the time to investigate it, the Glock site has a "cult" following for hunting. It's not a wheel gun or a single shot, it is a Glock. However, you cannot argue the point that in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing it is very good in 10mm. Additionally, you can now get a 460 Rowland Conversion for it. Many use them for deer and hogs with 6 inch barrels. No, it does not have a lot of choices as far as bullet weight goes, but many good names provide excellent ammo for it including Double Tap, and Buffalo Bore. It does have one advantage, fast followup shots. I think it is a good choice for someone interested in it and willing to practice to learn their capabilities. If it gets others handgun hunting, isn't that the point.

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 Originally Posted By: sc1911cwp
It's a different platform to say the least. I will not say it is not a good one as if you take the time to investigate it, the Glock site has a "cult" following for hunting. It's not a wheel gun or a single shot, it is a Glock. However, you cannot argue the point that in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing it is very good in 10mm. Additionally, you can now get a 460 Rowland Conversion for it. Many use them for deer and hogs with 6 inch barrels. No, it does not have a lot of choices as far as bullet weight goes, but many good names provide excellent ammo for it including Double Tap, and Buffalo Bore. It does have one advantage, fast followup shots. I think it is a good choice for someone interested in it and willing to practice to learn their capabilities. If it gets others handgun hunting, isn't that the point.



Which Glock site was it? Thanks, reflex264


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ME is irrelevant. If the pistol is accurate and is using a bullet that will penetrate deeply, I would say he is in business. We may not care for the platform, but we cannot argue with results. JMHO.


I agree with the ME but the Glock is about on par with the SRH for being butt ugly!!!! That Glock is one serious hunter the way he's got it set up, just would prefer Reflex "thinking" with a 1911 instead of that 21SF.


Reflex, have you worked with VV N350 with any of these loads?

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The site was Glock Talk, however it was many years ago. It will require some searching for those posts. It used to be the forum called " the 10 ring".

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 Originally Posted By: 7P's
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ME is irrelevant. If the pistol is accurate and is using a bullet that will penetrate deeply, I would say he is in business. We may not care for the platform, but we cannot argue with results. JMHO.


I agree with the ME but the Glock is about on par with the SRH for being butt ugly!!!! That Glock is one serious hunter the way he's got it set up, just would prefer Reflex "thinking" with a 1911 instead of that 21SF.


Reflex, have you worked with VV N350 with any of these loads?


Hey I like them too!!!!!!! Just recently had a 1911 Springfield that Charles Gatlin had worked his majic on. Talk about a shooter! I loaded up some of a load I got from a Camp Perry winner and it would throw them into a ragged hole. It departed in a 3 way trade unfortunately. Haven't worked with N350 yet but will as time allows. reflex264


"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

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 Originally Posted By: sc1911cwp
The site was Glock Talk, however it was many years ago. It will require some searching for those posts. It used to be the forum called " the 10 ring".


Thanks. That was the one I thought. I am a memeber of the 21 club. I will look for the threads. reflex264


"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

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My first whitetail deer with a handgun was with a Glock model 35 40 s&w. The small 9 point got within 35 yards and turned broadside, I took the shot and couldn't be happier with the result. I was rifle hunting for something larger but now I have a handgun taken deer to my credit. Really the deer made my decision! Now I have 10mm's, 45lc's,44 mags and 454 casull's that are better suited for the game, but the Glock got me on the scoreboard of larger game with a handgun. MK


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Ted Nugent has killed a pile of stuff with a .40 Glock. It will get it done with good shot placement. Come to think of it all cartridges need good shot placement. reflex264


"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

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 Originally Posted By: reflex264
Ted Nugent has killed a pile of stuff with a .40 Glock. It will get it done with good shot placement. Come to think of it all cartridges need good shot placement. reflex264


Actually, he is fond of the 10mm Glock and he usually uses Double Tap ammo when he hunts with it.


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Yep he moved over to the 10MM from the .40. I saw one his shows where it appeared he had pulled a 40 back out of the mothballs. Could have been some older footage though. A 10MM with double tap is pretty serious power. reflex264


"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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Yep he moved over to the 10MM from the .40. I saw one his shows where it appeared he had pulled a 40 back out of the mothballs. Could have been some older footage though. A 10MM with double tap is pretty serious power. reflex264


Indeed!


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I was trying to recall exactly how he described the gun. It was something like " a 40 caliber backstrap collector". If I aint mistaken he used a 10MM in Africa and killed a pile of stuff. reflex264


"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

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Hmmmmmm a glock is ugly... I myself never looked at hunting as a fashion show ... but then again ... im probably uglier than my glock.. lol


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Glock's mammas think they are pretty!!!!!!


"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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 Originally Posted By: reflex264
Glock's mammas think they are pretty!!!!!!


No... Not even their mammas think so....




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Now... thats harsh even by NY standards..


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Just think of it this way:
(1) You don't have to worry about how good the case hardening colors are.
(2) The bluing is never flawed.
(3) The engraving is always perfect.
(4) You can drop it in a mud puddle, sling off the excess and shoot a nice fat hog. Try that with one of those ugly Freedom arms thingys.

Glock-the most beautiful handgun in the world!!!!!!!!!

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Until you wake up next to one and have to chew your arm off.......


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Can't you just see John Wayne with a 21SF........Now thats class!!

What about Clint Eastwood?? A 20 with a laser......

Davy Crocket chasing down a runaway bear with a 19....

Everyone looks better with a Glock!!!!


"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

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Would you believe this was a 17 after a makeover? Beauty is skin deep.



"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"

I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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Yes,

Beauty is skin deep, but ugly is to the bone. Beauty all to soon fades away, but ugly holds it's own.

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Until you wake up next to one and have to chew your arm off.......


Now that's funny right there. Laughed out loud reading it.

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I love how glocks shoot and feel,

but they are like going to a bar like the Red Rooster( it use to be a college hang out) drinking a bottle of bourbon and then finding a lady to spend the night with, you wake up trying to figur how to hide what you just did or what you don't remember.

Lesson of the day it may feel good but when the booze wheres off its somthing you need a paper bag to look at.

Sorry guys may have taken that a little far, :]


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I'm glad you brought this up. This past weekend my wife comments she want to take my Glock 23 and let me pick up one of my own (unless she finds one she likes better). I was leaning towards the model 22, same caliber, little longer barrel, but not too long for CCW. I found 2 extended barrels on the Lone Wolf website, one is a 6 inch and the other is a 9 inch. My only concern was not enough power. I want to hear you guys opinions.


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Okie,

I think a lot might depend upon whether you handload, and/or these other barrels are either in 10mm or can get your ballistics closer to 10mm. While I do not use a 10mm, there are lots of folks who do and it absolutely has a place in hunting some large game. I think I would feel a little more "undergunned" being serious with either the 40 S&W or typical 40 ammo you might buy. I think most of that might tend to fall into the personal protection category and perhaps not have the choice of bullet or application you want.

Craig


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Re: Hunting with a Glock [Re: Bearbait in NM] #114478 07/29/2012 2:50 PM
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Prior to 2000 you could not have given me a Glock and if someone would have I would have used it for trading stock. In the summer of 2000 I spent 8 weeks in Pierre SD at the Law Enforcement Training Center. During firearms week I had my eyes opened a bit regarding Glocks.

There were roughly 35 Officers shooting Glocks. During the course of that week each officer put roughly 1000 rounds through each handgun. The one thing that became very apparent is that about 90% of these officers didn't have a clue how to clean and lube a handgun but I never once saw a Glock stoppage on the line, period. Not one single hickup. I still resisted but a few years later I traded for a used Glock Gen 2 Model 21 .45 ACP.

I shot that Glock for a few years and one day round a Kimber Model BP TEN II Polymer Frame, Double Stack Magazine 1911 and traded off my Glock Gen 2 Model 21 .45 ACP. What a mistake. That Kimber wouldn't shoot a 50 round course of fire without a stoppage of some sort or another. I fought with the Kimber for a few years and literally had everything on the inside of the Kimber polished to a mirror shine but still no luck. Utlimately I got smart and ended up selling the Kimber and acquiring another Glock Model 21 .45 ACP.

Since then I have acquired two more Glock Handguns a Model 26 9mm and more recently a Model 22 .40 S&W (which I have a Storm Lake Glock Model 22 9mm Conversion Barrel for).

I too am considering converting my Glock Model 21 .45 ACP to shoot .45 Supers. I found a couple articles on what is needed and what is not, so I may well be joining the ranks of someone that hunts with a Glock. The one thing I have learned about Glocks is that they are super easy to customize and they shoot every time. No they may not be pretty to look at but when in a holster it doesn't matter.

Larry






Last edited by Larry in SD; 07/29/2012 2:51 PM.

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Re: Hunting with a Glock [Re: Larry in SD] #114534 07/29/2012 9:09 PM
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I've shot glocks for over ten years. I competed at my club in action pistol and tactical pistol league. Glocks dont need aftermarket barrels, they shoot fine right out of the box. I shot against fellas with ed brown custom 1911s, STIs, Kimbers, and Wilson Combats, I'm not a great shooter but managed to place a few times. I shot factory rounds and didn't have any malfunctions until I started buying reloaded ammo from a local. Solved the issue by reloading my own on a Dillon 550 progressive. Id take the barrel out of the gun and drop every loaded round into the chamber to ensure function before matches. If it didnt drop all the way in it got put through a lee factory crimp die which full sizes a Loaded Round with a carbide bushing. I initiallly bought a stormlake barrel for shooting lead bullets. It has a tighter chamber than the glock barrel and gave me chambering issues but turning down the dillon crimp die or running through the lee factory crimp die stopped the problem it wasnt any more accurate than the factory glock barrel though.The cut rifling on the stormlake allows the lead bullets in a glock. And the barrel is shiny stainless steel..I carry a model 27 daily, nice compact with 11 rounds, same accurate reliable gun I shoot at matches. I have a 35 but hardly ever use it. Practice taught me effectiveness of the small gun out to 20 yds. More distance than that might not be considered defense. And there are better weapons for that.

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