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Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! #159366 05/28/2015 9:30 PM
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NICE AND BRIGHT JUST FOR ZEE!

Redhawk 44 With the conversion!

10" Green MNT Barrel
Harrel Brake
5" Shroud
Mono Grip modified with aluminum base pad.

I know its not for the traditionalist....

and I know its bright...

I just cant wait to see how it shoots.

Once the mount gets here it will be wearing a 4x leupold with target knobs.


Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Hoggin] #159367 05/28/2015 10:05 PM
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Ok, I am on board this train........tradition be damned. I've never been a traditionalist and kill as many sacred cows as I possibly can in the firearms industry.

My only non-aesthetic issue (grips and color) is with the ejection rod floating at the bottom. Visually & functionally, I'd prefer the shroud extend below the ejector rod to that last hard edge below the ejector and before it tapers back towards the cylinder.

I feel it would function better to have one continuous surface front to back on the shroud. Less chance of anything getting caught or hanging up on the ejector rod.

Visually, it would flow better to encapsulate the rod and make the bottom of the shroud blend into that lower hard edge under the rod.

That's me and you didn't ask me. So, take it for what it's worth. It's an opinion freely given.

Grips and color are a personal preference. I see the above as a function.

Other than that. I LIKE!!!


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What mount (length and location are you going to use? Mounted on the shroud? Top of the receiver? Full length?


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Weigand. On the frame

Shroud could be done either way

Color is whatever....I did bright because it gets attention

It's a pocket the rod sits in now. The other side of the rod has aluminum coming down to the bottom of the rod if that makes sense.

This is the first redhawk I made for the shop...I haven't had much of a chance to play with th others I made for customers.

Let's see what this cannon will do. Give me a couple weeks. Prob won't get shot much till Wyshot.

Some poor pdog is going to catch a chunk of lead.

Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Hoggin] #159371 05/28/2015 10:26 PM
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I think black and stainless with any wood grips would be down right good looking

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 Originally Posted By: Bcgunworks
I think black and stainless with any wood grips would be down right good looking


I would agree!!


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It's 8oz heavier than a 6.5" factory gun

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Any chance of a close-up of the shroud/receiver to better visualize the pocket you are referring to?



I am eagerly enthralled in the progression of this project.........


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Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Zee] #159375 05/28/2015 10:33 PM
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When the scope mount gets here I'll take a bunch of pics.

I was trying to make the front of the gun sit lower....thought it may help in the field shooting.

The gp100 is done the way your wanting. I just have to use a larger dia aluminum stock to start with to do the redhawk the same

Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Hoggin] #159376 05/28/2015 10:35 PM
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:twothumbsup:


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Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Zee] #159377 05/28/2015 10:36 PM
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I so hate you right now.

I don't NEED another .44 Mag..............but.........I want.


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Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Zee] #159378 05/28/2015 11:05 PM
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Oh the hook is set deeply on this one...........................
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I so hate you right now.

I don't NEED another .44 Mag..............but.........I want.


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Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Ernie] #159379 05/28/2015 11:10 PM
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It's all Ernie's fault

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Could do a 45 colt. Problem solved

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 Originally Posted By: Bcgunworks
Could do a 45 colt. Problem solved


No Ernie.........before I was just staring at the bait contemplating the lent in my belly button and thinking he had a good idea on something I didn't need.

NOW.........he just set the hook. I NEED one in .45 Colt.


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If I hated him before.






I loath him now.


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Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Zee] #159386 05/28/2015 11:44 PM
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I catch a lot of poop from the traditional wheel gun guys over this system.

Truth is I hated it in the beginning. I was a traditional wheel gun guy. But I could never get anything to shoot as good as these. And it's really a simple system.

It grew on me with time. I still love a classic wheel gun.

Constantly updating and changing little things with the system and it keeps getting a little better with each little change.

Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Hoggin] #159387 05/28/2015 11:55 PM
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I have to say, I really like it. Question though: what color is the frame? It looks like you added a slate gray finish or something, or is that just due to the lighting?

You know, you could challenge some of the traditionalists to a competition. Set up a couple of targets at long ranges and see whose gun shoots better.


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Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Chance Weldon] #159388 05/29/2015 12:00 AM
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Color is blue titanium

I have offered that and they won't do it....even offered to pay for ammo and lodging

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They're just jealous their traditional gun doesn't shoot as well as your precision built machines.

You sure you don't want to go with a 2.5-8x power scope on that? Seems like it would serve the gun better than a 4x.


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Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Chance Weldon] #159391 05/29/2015 12:09 AM
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Naw..I'm looking at it as a big game getter...

I'll have to run some data and actually test it but I think a 4x will be good for as far as I ethically want to go.

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Ha!
Yeah, the LC has all three of us worked up
 Originally Posted By: Zee
If I hated him before.






I loath him now.


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I can almost feel the heat off his pocket from the money burning a hole!

Ha!

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That you put an aluminum end cap on the bottom of your Redhawk grip...
You use field bags under your grips more...
You love Bog-Gear now....
You are considering using high magnification optics you hadn't considered using on wheelguns (not on the RH though)....
Really, it's is all your fault for coming up with the FR!!!
I sure didn't come up with that!!!
I just shoot and break stuff
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It's all Ernie's fault


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Re: Redhawk 44 FR FOR ZEE! [Re: Ernie] #159404 05/29/2015 1:37 AM
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Breaking stuff is your strong point.

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I blame Ernie for lots of things. Even when it wasn't his fault. It's just easier to blame him out of principle.


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 Originally Posted By: Zee
I blame Ernie for lots of things. Even when it wasn't his fault. It's just easier to blame him out of principle.



Fact....he's a good scape goat

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Ok, .45 Colt.........

Does the Redhawk have to start out as one before the FR? Or can you convert in the process?


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 Originally Posted By: Bcgunworks
 Originally Posted By: Zee
I blame Ernie for lots of things. Even when it wasn't his fault. It's just easier to blame him out of principle.



Fact....he's a good scape goat


I kick him any chance I get. Keeps him in his place and besides...........it's fun and I like him.

Wouldn't give him the time of day if I didn't.

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Would rather start with one.

I have the required truing down and it normally doesn't require messing with chambers.

The conversion is so simple it's nuts. Just takes a good bit of machine time to make the components.

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Well, locating a Redhawk in a Colt chamber is a pricy endeavor to begin with.

Crap.


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Agreed.
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Well, locating a Redhawk in a Colt chamber is a pricy endeavor to begin with.

Crap.


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I love you too...smooch
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I blame Ernie for lots of things. Even when it wasn't his fault. It's just easier to blame him out of principle.


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Their still current production

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Several on gunbroker

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 Originally Posted By: Bcgunworks
Their still current production


Yeah. Already looked. They are rather new to the production line. Meaning............not many if any used ones to cut up. So, it's gotta be new. And they ain't as cheap as GPs.

But, believe me. I'm looking.


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Range time in the morning.

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Not interested in the results. Nope. Uh-uh! Not at all. Not even a little. Really!

Honest.


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I only loaded 20 rounds. Won't really get into it till Wyshot. Some poor pdog is going to be the test subject

I just threw a load together. 240 sierra. Imr 4227

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That's an interesting looking project! Not anymore gaudy than a SW X frame and probably a bit lighter. Can't wait to see the test results.


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It's 8oz more than a 6.5" redhawk. So with a 10" barrel I think that's pretty light

I shot it enough today to zero it and kill a groundhog.

I just randomly picked a load....imr 4227 and a sierra 240.

I only shot it at 50 yds and shots were just touching.

Bag pressure and grip will be different with this vs the 357. The 357 I let free recoil and it really doesn't move.
The 44 has some mild recoil and the muzzle rises about 3-4" off the bags with a one hand hold and one hand on the bag.

Follow through I have always found to be key with the wheel guns...I'll have to perfect the different hold with this one to really shrink the group. Won't take much but I'm slightly swamped with work and I'm trying to get ready for Wyshot.

I will do some shooting with it in video at Wyshot. Poor pdogs....

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Quick photos for zee

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I really don't like you.


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If it makes you feel better I scratched the heck out of it taking these pictures

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Are you trying to make me want one? Cause it's working.


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Ha! Just wait till I have a pile of pdogs under it in a photo...and maybe video

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