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American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 #161414 08/09/2015 4:08 PM
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Ruger has finally listened to big bore revolver fans and is now offering a Bisley Super Blackhawk in the .454Casull and .480Ruger chamberings!!! Both guns will have five shot cylinders of Carpenter Custom 465 stainless steel with recessed case heads. They will have 6 1/2" barrels and the long ejector from the 10" Super Blackhawk and Hunter models. They are a distributor special, only available only through Lipsey's. Read more about it below:

http://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2...per-blackhawks/

https://www.facebook.com/AmericanHunter?fref=ts


Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Craig44] #161415 08/09/2015 4:09 PM
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I want that gun.


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We were just talking about the new mystery chambering from Lipseys. Glad they took the plunge. It's long overdue.


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The barrel length is 6 1/2". It is also bull barrel.

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Thanks, look like the forum choked on my half inch character.

Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Craig44] #161421 08/09/2015 4:40 PM
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Looks good.

Hey, Bayside, think you could make a Frankenruger out of one of these?


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 Originally Posted By: TN Lone Wolf
Looks good.

Hey, Bayside, think you could make a Frankenruger out of one of these?


Would love too...and I think it would be great.

But....

The cyl pin and ejector rod are in the way and no good way to get around them.

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Has anybody heard what the street price is yet?


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 Originally Posted By: TN Lone Wolf
Looks good.

Hey, Bayside, think you could make a Frankenruger out of one of these?

Why would you want to ruin it for no gain???

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Looks good.

Hey, Bayside, think you could make a Frankenruger out of one of these?

Why would you want to ruin it for no gain???


Somebody just wants to fight.............me thinks.


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Looks good.

Hey, Bayside, think you could make a Frankenruger out of one of these?

Why would you want to ruin it for no gain???


Somebody just wants to fight.............me thinks.


Yes...he's just a troll

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Has anybody heard what the street price is yet?


I almost don't care what the price would be. I want one! And...........I have two kidneys.............I don't NEED two kidneys..............I NEED that gun.

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Somebody just wants to fight.............me thinks.

Nope, I want someone to explain to me what would be gained by installing a 12" barrel and a goofy looking aluminum shroud on this sixgun. Another 200yd deer gun for those who carry portable shooting rests in the field?

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This may be what helps keep the 480 going.

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 Originally Posted By: Craig44
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Looks good.

Hey, Bayside, think you could make a Frankenruger out of one of these?

Why would you want to ruin it for no gain???


I'm only asking if he could. All of the FRs he's built have been Redhawks, if I remember correctly.


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Looks good.

Hey, Bayside, think you could make a Frankenruger out of one of these?

Why would you want to ruin it for no gain???


I'm only asking if he could. All of the FRs he's built have been Redhawks, if I remember correctly.

RedHawk, gp, and sp

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Ah, yes, forgot about the GP.

Remind me, which one's the Sp?


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As I said on the board, Ruger sent me a survey a few years ago and the last question was "what would you like to see made by Ruger" and my answer was a 5 shot Bisly in 480. I`am sure a few thousand other handgun hunters said the same thing. Good for Ruger.....


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Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Craig44] #161448 08/09/2015 6:42 PM
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Somebody just wants to fight.............me thinks.

Nope, I want someone to explain to me what would be gained by installing a 12" barrel and a goofy looking aluminum shroud on this sixgun. Another 200yd deer gun for those who carry portable shooting rests in the field?


Oft times......"because I can".....is a valid reason.

What would be gained by me buying this new Ruger? I'd have a new gun. Do I need it? Nope. Do I want it? Yep. Why? Because I can.


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I want a 480..... just not going to be today....i will look for the lightly used... comes with a partial box of shells with only 6 rds fired from it ..... in about a year from now.


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 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
Has anybody heard what the street price is yet?


List is $969 that would put store cost in the $725 range.

I am going to try to pick up a 480


If it jams force it! If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
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My LGS called Lipsey's today. They said the first batch of Casull revolvers was sold out and that the .480s supposedly hadn't arrived yet.

They put a Casull on backorder for me.


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I just might have to jump in

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There are a few for sale on GB


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I don't need another gun, especially a handgun. For all intents and purposes shooting Arkansas deer and hogs my Bisley in 45 colt works amiably. That 480 Ruger calls out to me. I don't need it but when a used one pops up for sale for $550 it will probably find a loving home.

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When did need ever play into our gun purchases???????


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Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Whitworth] #161522 08/11/2015 4:31 PM
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I whole heartedly agree Whit, its hard to find time to hunt all of them like I want to though!

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love to have one
but I went the 454 route before (too much gun for me)
Maybe the 480 ?
I have a custom 44 that I need to practice more with.

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When did need ever play into our gun purchases???????


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Glad to see both calibers come out in a Bisley, I thought the old story was that the Blackhawk frame couldn't handle Casull pressure and thats why they went with the Redhawk, you can sure tell there's different management at Ruger these days!

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It wasn't the frame that was the issue, it was the cylinder. Ruger could not produce a 6 hole cylinder that would handle the pressure of the 454 given the standard alloy and diameter. By going to a 5 hole, they have essentially done what the custom smiths have been doing for years to make their big boomers.

Good on Ruger, this combination I am sure is going to sell out in a hurry as it now provides a real alternative to a custom big bore conversion or a BFR.

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Actually, for a long time Ruger felt the frame wasn't up to the task. However, they reevaluated and tested, and here we are!


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Theyre gonna sell alot of these.

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At the bottom of the article, there is a picture of Whitworth and a hog. Is that the new gun he used for that? What type of rail system is he using?

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KRal,

The picture showed up, but nothing on the rail. Could you please send it again?

Thank you


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 Originally Posted By: 4MAG4
At the bottom of the article, there is a picture of Whitworth and a hog. Is that the new gun he used for that? What type of rail system is he using?


Yup. Killed it last Saturday with the .454 Bisley. The sight mount is by Weigand and is a no drill, no tap variety. I mounted an Ultradot 4 with Weaver rings on it.


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KRal,

The picture showed up, but nothing on the rail. Could you please send it again?

Thank you


Sorry about that. Max has chimed in now, but its on the bragging board.


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I just ordered mine today. Dealer said two months. I ordered the .480


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I'd really like to have one in 454, as I already own a 480, but I truly don't think a person could do any better than a 480 in a Bisley. It's a beautiful gun in a very capable chambering.

I should sell a few long guns and buy one, but as my buddy said, "Never sell a gun to buy a gun." It's tempting though.

Brenden

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I ordered a 480 I don't know who said 2 months but mine said 6 months plus.

We will see if it ever shows up.

Until then I have a couple 45's that might work.

May have to buy a Franken Ruger so I can shoot 240 gr bullets at prairie dogs at 600 yards -- 55 gr bullets from a .223 just won't kill one dead enough these days.

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I've been kicking around the idea of a 454 revolver. I really like the way Whit has his set up.


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 Originally Posted By: H2OBUG
May have to buy a Franken Ruger so I can shoot 240 gr bullets at prairie dogs at 600 yards -- 55 gr bullets from a .223 just won't kill one dead enough these days.


This above, put a smile on my face!


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I think I just may.....

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 Originally Posted By: Desertrat
I think I just may.....


I think you just must.......


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So Max, you played with both in .480 and .454. Any personal preference for one ? Also wonder how they compare to the BFR ?

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Dropped by a gun shop I frequent while making my rounds in the panhandle and NW Oklahoma. They had one of the new Ruger Bisley 454 five shots in there laying on the counter for all to handle. It felt great in the hand as soon as I picked It up.
He has some of the 480 Rugers on the way also.
This one was marked 805.00, new, plus tax.
I gave him my card and asked him to call me as soon as one of the 480's hit the door. He said he expects them in about 2 weeks.
Very nice pistol.
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I ordered by 480 a week ago.

The 454 doesn't interest me, have other guns to handle that.


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I bought the .454 Casull flavor today. Should be here in a couple days.


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Ok guys, a few questions. Why is the bisley grip the only one deemed appropriate? I've never shot one. How does the Ruger compare to the BFR? What would you like to see in future models? Nothing wrong with this one, just wondering what may be coming next.
I want in 454 Casull and a 7 1/2 inch Hunter model. Maybe with see thru rings and fiber optic sights. Am I asking too much? I can't afford one right now, to many irons in the fire.


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To control recoil, you will find few that prefer the "plow handle" (for lack of qa better term) to the Bisley. Lots of Bisley shooters complain about getting their middle knuckle rapped by the trigger guard, but the vertical profile brings recoil back into your hand more like a double-action instead of a propensity to roll up like a plow handle. Hence the Bisley was the chosen grip frame on these two new models.

I don't know if Ruger will want anyone to hang an optic on the barrel of a .454. Keep in mind the operating pressure of the Casull and even the .480 relative to the .44 Magnum. I don't know if a Hunter model will ever come about.

How do they compare to a BFR? Lighter and more svelte. Both of mine are very accurate I might add.


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Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Whitworth] #161748 08/18/2015 2:31 PM
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I don't know if a Hunter model will ever come about.


I am pretty certain it won't. Weigand said that the Ruger ringmount system wouldn't hold a scope on a Casull for even 10 shots. Ruger asked them to design a scope mount that would work, and you can see it on Max's gun. They have no intention of coming out with a Hunter model.


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Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: s4s4u] #161789 08/19/2015 3:17 PM
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I see a success story here. This should make a great bear woods packing revolver. I am a big 480 Ruger fan, and I may have to add one to my herd. This one should be W-A-Y more packable than a Super RedHawk.
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Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Bob Roach] #161793 08/19/2015 6:26 PM
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I'm glad Lipseys and a Ruger got Max and the other experts together and designed and built this revolver correctly. Exciting time to be a big bore guy.


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Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Badubet] #161827 08/20/2015 9:06 PM
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Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: MIHunter] #161930 08/23/2015 1:44 AM
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Had my hands on a .454 today, pretty sweet only wished they would have made them 20 years ago would have saved my a lot of $$!I think the price was $819 plus tax

Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Ryan 500L] #161932 08/23/2015 1:52 AM
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I picked mine up for $750 shipped.


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Re: American Hunter First Look new Ruger .454 and .480 [Re: Zee] #162004 08/24/2015 1:11 AM
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Whit, if I make it out that way again I want to shoot your bisley at "the range." Just hope we don't get in trouble.


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