I use AA1680 in the 357 max. with the 200 gr. cast bullet from a lee mold. It shoots great from my 10" contender and my H&R handi-rifle. Shot two doe this year with the contender. Don't remember the recipe off hand, but it wasn't a max. load. If i remember correctly i was getting 1850 f.p.s. out of the rifle and 1600 from the contender. Enough to get the job done.