This is an all new gun with lots of options from the Remington Custom Shop. This is the first anyone is seeing the guns but given the setup on a blueprinted 40X action pillar bedded and a 40x fully adjustable trigger it will be a notable improvement over the older XP-100s.

Remington is producing some amazingly accurate guns today and I have no doubt these guns will shoot. This configuration has a threaded barrel with a muzzle brake, an Accuracy Int'l. detachable magazine and bottom metal and is topped with the Leupold 2.5x8 handgun scope. If you want to stay true to tradition you can also get the gun as a single-shot.

Do you know what the price range is going to be?

It's going to depend on the configuration but they will be over 2 grand and could go up to 3500 or more depending on the wood.

Not interested in a rear grip. Any chance of a midgrip?

For that price, you can have twice the gun plus glass from a true custom shop. Ridiculous that they cant keep it in the $1K range.
A pretty rig, but not reasonable for the wallet for what you get.

I guess you can`t keep a good thing down.....

Very interesting! Any idea when they will be available? Will this only be through the custom shop?

Nice to see pics of the complete SP's.

Any chance open sights will be offered ?

Esp for I H M S A SILH??

From the looks of all of those, they would all weigh too much

I'll get a better look at these during SHOT. Always glad to see new hunting handguns introduced but the over $2000 to $3500 price tag will deter buying interest. Hopefully the guys in the custom shop have other tasks or they may end up being like the Maytag repairman.

I don't think so but it wouldn't hurt to ask.

This is a true custom shop. In a similar configuration, it will be about the same price point as the HS Precision gun.

Yes, these are only through the custom shop and it will take 4-6 months to build it. Probably on the longer end if you want high grade wood. It's all hand fitted and finished.

I am deterred one can get an incredible gun from very reputable boulders for allot less money than that. I have a full custom from Gary Reeder in 240 Raptor that is THE most accurate handgun I own and it was half that amount. Plus it has a mid grip custom laminated stock. It's a great idea but the accountants need to keep,thier greedy little hands out of this project and it has a chance.

That price is stupid! They will effectively put themselves back out of the SP market.

Someone told me that Dakota Arms does all the custom shop work like this for Remington now???
Assuming Dakota Arms is owned by the same group as Remington?

If they can market an 700 ADL for less than $400 and a 700 SPS for $500...............they could market a SP for the same.

They are assclowns.

What cartridges will they be chambered in?

Any short action cartridge

700 adl vs a 40x blueprinted action and trigger on a pillar bedded stock and hart barrel. If the cost differences arent obvious and quality isnt as well theres. Or much i can say, i guess. Perhaps the really correct stance is ..... "i want em to come out with a really cheap entry level xp! That would be valid i guess

I understand there is a difference in the 700 and 40x actions. I have/had both and the 40x is a mighty fine action. But, so is the 700.

I guess I'm saying, why are the offering a Freedom Arms class when they can offer a Super Blackhawk class instead of or as well.

By only offering the high end option, I think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot. They sure aren't doing the SP community any favors by offering a platform out of reach of 75% (SWAG) of your buying market.

I can build one for half that price ($3,500) or less that will shoot just as well for all intents and purposes.

Yeah. There will be the collectors and the more well to do that will buy one. But, as easy as it would be to offer a sub 1K bolt action SP..............why isn't anyone?!?

Bare 700 Action: $350
Stock/Chassis: $200-400 (yes you can spend more)
Trigger: $100-150
Barrel: $150-350
Chamber/Build: $400-800

I'd say, depending on your parts and whether you build yourself or have someone else do it.......You can build as good (at least) a bolt action SP as they are offering for +/- $1,000 on the low end to $1,800 on the high end.

I just don't get their target market.

They are beautiful guns. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to own one. I'm not however. Because, I can and have (as mentioned) build/built one for less.

To sum it all up, they can build a nice high end SP......ok.

But, does anybody know WHY they won't offer an entry level SP? They could do it with existing parts and other than the stock.........not farm out for any other parts.

Got to be a reason that a low sale volume, time consuming, high priced custom seems a marketable product and a Model 7 or 700 SPS specialty pistol does not.

Anyone?

The ONLY reason.........and I believe it's the one......that they don't offer an entry or mid level SP is "production".

With a "production" gun, they would have to have an inventory on hand to send to distributors and they may or may not sell fast or at all. But, they have to be made prior.

With a custom...........it's basically money up front and they aren't out any investment without a "promise" of sale. You order........they make. Nobody orders.......no money lost. Other than production research and example models.

So, it's like offering something to the public without investing in the public.

Unfortunately.........I feel it will be the beginning of the end for that offering.

Show of hands.........how many here are going to spend $2,500 for a base model 40x SP? Any takers for the top end fancy wood model?

Zee,
You are probably correct in your assessment of the "WHY".

Personally, if I was going to pay that price, I'd drop it on a HS Precision that has a 1/2 MOA ga-rone-tee. Just saying....and....it's a center grip.

Yes!

What he said ^^^

I'd never spend the money on the new offering. I can do the same thing for considerably less money. I've not been impressed with Remington the past few years either.

I used to build rifles ( still do but not as often), and I could build a fine weapon for a lot less than you could pick up a new 700. I've also built a few that cost considerably more.

Pretty sure I could do the same thing they are doing here for $700-800. Their prices are absurd and sicken me.

It will be like a lot of the 460 S&W revolvers that were sold. Some guys will buy it, have it long enough to show it off to their buddies, and off to the nearest pawn shop it will go.

oh yeah, just going high end is gonna kill the deal.

I'm glad we agree that it is a poor marketing strategy for the SP community.

I will continue to build them for less and enjoy an end product of my design. I'm not good at leaving a gun stock anyway. If they made an entry model SP..........I'd modify it anyway. Ha!

On a good note, anybody know who makes the synthetic stock they are using? Looks like an HS or B&C.

Remington is making the stocks.

Wow!

The input that I read here does seem to have SOME validation but, I do not believe that most posters on this topic really understand the meaning of TRUE CUSTOM.... a hand build firearm, car, motorcycle....what have you, all comes with a price. you take nothing but premium components, hand assembled... THE DAKOTA ARMS WAY, finished the same way with a 1/2 minute accuracy guarantee and a unconditional lifetime guarantee.... there is NO WAY you could build these types of QUALITY handguns for the kind of money you posters are stating in this thread... I have had numerous custom firearms built for me, some through the Remington Custom Shop and some from other TOP TIER builders in the country and every one of them has been pretty much on par with the costs that Remington is stating that these will sell for. I own several Dakota rifles and their attention to detail is far better than 95% of the custom gun builders you read about all the time.
I realize that I am opening a can of worms here but, you guys really need to do your homework before posting some of the silly things that you do. I look forward to reading the comments on this one.........................

80% of my rifles are custom built. I have a plethora.

I know what it costs me to build them.

Silly things? It's common sense, I don't pay for someone to build it for me. I weld, I drill and tap, chamber, start from blank wood or a semi inlet, and do everything in between. That's a lot more that what is going on here.

Anyone can take a m700, 40x, model 7, set the headspace ( remage barrel or short chamber) and get a quality stock blank. Bed the stock or add pillars and you will have something that looks just as good and can shoot right with it.

Most of us here fully understand what a true custom entails. There are several here that can do all of this work themselves. Here is the cost savings. Do it yourself and you don't have to pay the ridiculous premiums.

Im reaching for you, but I can't quite feel you on this one. This is a simple build that most with a bit of common sense can achieve. People have been doing it for years.

A breath of fresh air. Thank you.

Yes, SILLY THINGS.........some of the posts in this thread are thoughtless and very obtuse to say the least. I realize that some people can in fact build their own firearms, but most people that enjoy precision shooting with a handgun or a rifle do not have the means to build their own personal custom builds . I myself do not have the knowledge to build them, my knowledge is within the medical industry and that's that, so building personal firearms is out and I gladly pay to have a precision works of art built to my specification. And you are wrong, not everyone can take a 700 or 40x or stiller, badger, defiance ect. and build a firearm. Especially when I know that the Custom Shop is doing all such work on CNC equipment. There is a talent within the Custom world no matter what the word custom is being referred too. You taking a barrel that is short chambered and pre threaded is not in any way shape or form CUSTOM...... Say what you want here but the fact that Custom firearm builders exist trumps your OBTUSE theroy you have about the industry...........

Well, we have one person willing to spend the money.

So.........that's one sold Remington?

Would you mind being specific and not talk in generalities? So we might know what to address in particular.

SILLY......OBTUSE......

Welcome to the forum 6.5 shooter.

Could you please define the meaning of "True Custom"? Or at least, what it means to you.

Well you need to do your homework. On this thread and on this site are folks that probably own many "true" customs and several are true icons in handgun hunting circles. Some have hunted harvested 100s of heads of game and pioneered the sport. So you need to try and calm down some and not put down the posters on this site without understanding first who you are insulting. the comments on this offering are well founded and spot on. These so called customs will not sell very well at that price point. Large companies that try and execute these endeavors are not always successful ,unless they have value. Oh by the way true customs are well fitted and hand fitted with care and tremendous amount of expereince learned over along time from true craftsmen. Not someone who writes transfers a STP file to a CNC machine..........lmao

Glad I know where I stand now. I'm obtuse, and haven't put together any custom firearms.

I never did say there wasn't talent in the custom industry. Never did say I or anyone on here was the last word in custom firearms.

All barrels start the same way, a blank. They are then threaded and chambered to fit said firearm. Setting the shoulders back, reaming, they all end up the same way, on the weapon. How is it that a short chambered barrel isn't custom? Its to my specifications, I choose the reamer specifications, what's the secret? Is it because I don't own CNC equipment? If that makes you a custom builder, my God I'll buy the equipment tomorrow!

It all comes down to this, it isn't custom if you yourself start with an action and build it from the ground up. You mentioned that custom shops\builders start with only the best and go from there. I can do the same thing, but it isn't custom!?

The only time something is custom is when you shell out massive amounts of cash for it. Seen it a million times, have seen your thought process a million times as well. You look down upon us mere mortals that have the ability to build a quility custom firearm as if we are scum just because a name brand didn't build it for us.

All things aside, good for you and the guns that you have. I do hope you enjoy them and are very successful in whatever you pursue with them.

Ok everybody settle down. We're better than infighting over what custom means or who is or isn't capable of building a gun.

A new record set. Only 2 posts in and already made the ignore list.....

I have custom rigs....Well, maybe I don't...
But I am surely not capable of building a "custom," but I'm good at shooting and breaking stuff.
I'm a Custom Gun-Breaker

Quote from Gary: "Ok everybody settle down. We're better than infighting over what custom means or who is or isn't capable of building a gun."

Good call, Gary.

Very good points here on both sides. But no need to argue.

IMO, if Remington's XP project falls on it's ass, the bottom line is what usually hurts mankind: GREED

LMAO.....Yep... Welcome

The last part is definitely true! But its not limited to just guns

Aaron

Okay, now you are getting personal.....but true

Ernie's destructive methods are why we do so many unnecessary things to strengthen the xp

I think it's neat that they're making them again. I won't be buying one for that kind of money though.

Did anyone notice what side the bolt is on?

IF the price was right, and I could get one in the original dog leg bolt, with the bolt on the correct side (right side for us lefties), in mid-grip configuration with the caliber I wanted, I'd certainly consider getting one.

I've got a goodly amount of $$ tied up in my "custom" xp-100 and I tried to save as much money on the build as I could without compromising on certain aspects of it and still meet my objective.

So, yeah, depending on price, configuration, etc., I'd certainly consider one.

I also think it's neat that Remington even "re-introduced" the XP-100. Who'd ever thunk it in todays market.... Certainly not I... (now, if it was a black plastic stock and went bang every trigger pull, I might have believed it...)