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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: tradmark] #187246 12/09/2017 8:09 PM
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First change I get to ground check a boar I will also do some post mortem testing followed by a detailed and photographed autopsy.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: Handgun400] #188177 01/02/2018 2:10 PM
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Just my $0.02, but I have never had good luck with the XTP-MAG bullets. The regular XTP bullets have worked consistently well for me in dropping white tail deer. However, the XTP-MAG bullets have consistently failed when shot from my 454 Casull, first they don't group well out of my gun and second every bullet that I managed to recover has shown jacket separation with minimal expansion. In short I trust the XTP but not the XTP-MAG.

Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: bladesmith14731] #188202 01/02/2018 7:34 PM
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 Originally Posted By: bladesmith14731
Just my $0.02, but I have never had good luck with the XTP-MAG bullets. The regular XTP bullets have worked consistently well for me in dropping white tail deer. However, the XTP-MAG bullets have consistently failed when shot from my 454 Casull, first they don't group well out of my gun and second every bullet that I managed to recover has shown jacket separation with minimal expansion. In short I trust the XTP but not the XTP-MAG.


INTERESTING OBSERVATION. MOST OF MY EXPERIENCE WITH 300 gr. XTP's WAS PROBABLY WITH THE REGULAR XTP's AND I HAD NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM. NOT SURE I HAVE EVER USED AN XTP-MAG ON GAME, PRACTICE YES, GAME I DO NOT THINK SO.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: 45MAN] #188237 01/03/2018 2:38 PM
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I read where a .460 shooter loaded/shot/hunted with the 250 XTP for deer and hogs. Has no complaints and DRT animals.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: Handgun400] #188242 01/03/2018 3:38 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Handgun400
I read where a .460 shooter loaded/shot/hunted with the 250 XTP for deer and hogs. Has no complaints and DRT animals.


I have used the 250txp in 45 colt, 454 casull and .50 cal muzzleloader with no issues. Even at upper end 454 levels, it performed great. In my opinion, it is the best of the XTP family of bullet. I've read of forcing cone erosion from using in, but I've experienced no such issues; I guess if it does, I deal with it then.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: KRal] #188246 01/03/2018 5:49 PM
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KRal, can you give more details on possible forcing cone erosion from using 250XTP 45 Colt?

Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: spinsail] #188250 01/03/2018 9:09 PM
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 Originally Posted By: spinsail
KRal, can you give more details on possible forcing cone erosion from using 250XTP 45 Colt?


According to some readings, 250xtp is too soft to shoot at the higher velocities of the 454 casull and thus resulted in forcing cone erosion. Whether or not this is true....I don't know. It may have derived in the hay-day's of Metallic Silly-Wet where thousands of rounds were fired using that bullet and thus forever tagged as a bad bullet for those velocities. I do know, that I've shot/shoot the 250xtp at 1750'ish fps from my FA 83 and it's extremely accurate and thumps deer pretty hard. I don't see my self shooting thousands of rounds of that bullet, but if I do and I have forcing cone issues, I'll just suck it up as getting my money's worth from that barrel and get a new one installed (might be a good reason to get an octagon barrel then :D) I'm no expert on this issue, so take it with a grain of salt.

P.S. That load data I'm using was developed by JT; he may or may not know what he's talking 'bout
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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: KRal] #188254 01/03/2018 10:09 PM
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I do know, that I've shot/shoot the 250xtp at 1750'ish fps from my FA 83 and it's extremely accurate and thumps deer pretty hard. [/quote]

I USED A 250 XTP AT AROUND 1,750 fps ON A 1991 SAFARI BUT IT WAS WAY TOO FRANGIBLE ON LARGER PLAINSGAME SUCH AS KUDU AND RED HARTEBEEST. AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY POSTED, I HAVE USED THE 250 XTP AT AROUND 1,550 fps AND IT WAS DEVASTATING ON EXOTIC DOES.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: 45MAN] #188266 01/04/2018 2:27 AM
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 Originally Posted By: 45MAN

I do know, that I've shot/shoot the 250xtp at 1750'ish fps from my FA 83 and it's extremely accurate and thumps deer pretty hard.


I USED A 250 XTP AT AROUND 1,750 fps ON A 1991 SAFARI BUT IT WAS WAY TOO FRANGIBLE ON LARGER PLAINSGAME SUCH AS KUDU AND RED HARTEBEEST. AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY POSTED, I HAVE USED THE 250 XTP AT AROUND 1,550 fps AND IT WAS DEVASTATING ON EXOTIC DOES.[/quote]

My only experience with that load is on whitetails and it was devistating. If I ever get an opportunity to hunt Africa, it will not be the load I'm using. I'll be using a Partition, A-frame or X bullet.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: KRal] #188270 01/04/2018 4:19 AM
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I've used the 250 grain XTP in my 12 inch Encore 454 Casull on deer and hogs. These are explosive, a one shot stopper. I agree if I were hunting anything bigger I'd go with a heavier bullet.


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I have only used the 250XTP on deer and it slams them from a 454 at 1500 fps. I haven't recovered any at this point.

Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: dhom] #188274 01/04/2018 3:01 PM
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I am launching the 250gr XTP at 2,388 FPS out of my Encore .460 S&W Pistol. Have taken 2 deer with devastating results! Recovered both bullets expanded to about max capability.

Love this combo for whitetail.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: Zee] #188283 01/04/2018 5:47 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Zee
I am launching the 250gr XTP at 2,388 FPS out of my Encore .460 S&W Pistol. Have taken 2 deer with devastating results! Recovered both bullets expanded to about max capability.

Love this combo for whitetail.


Interesting....I've never recovered one from my 454 at 1750fps.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: KRal] #188285 01/04/2018 5:52 PM
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They should work good in that 460. Tougher bullet than those 200?s and youre getting going for sure!

Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: KRal] #188293 01/04/2018 8:09 PM
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 Originally Posted By: KRal
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I am launching the 250gr XTP at 2,388 FPS out of my Encore .460 S&W Pistol. Have taken 2 deer with devastating results! Recovered both bullets expanded to about max capability.

Love this combo for whitetail.


Interesting....I've never recovered one from my 454 at 1750fps.


I had a much higher impact velocity and hit on side point of the shoulder bone on both deer. Leading to rapid expansion and shallower penetration. Both bullets were recovered under the hide on the quartering towards deer.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: Zee] #188298 01/04/2018 9:47 PM
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I am launching the 250gr XTP at 2,388 FPS out of my Encore .460 S&W Pistol. Have taken 2 deer with devastating results! Recovered both bullets expanded to about max capability.

Love this combo for whitetail.


Interesting....I've never recovered one from my 454 at 1750fps.


I had a much higher impact velocity and hit on side point of the shoulder bone on both deer. Leading to rapid expansion and shallower penetration. Both bullets were recovered under the hide on the quartering towards deer.


oooh....that prolly hurt.


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Re: Hornady 300 grain XTP Mag bullet concerns [Re: KRal] #188638 01/15/2018 2:03 PM
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I'm not trying to hi-jack this thread, but I've only used the 300gr. XTP in 44 caliber and have had zero issues. I use it in my muzzleloader to 1960 FPS and my 44 Mag at just over 1300 FPS. I'm in the process of putting together a 445 Super Mag and plan on trying the same bullet. Deer and hogs have been my main quarry and shots are under 150 yds. with 75/100 yds. being the norm. Mushrooms are textbook when I do find a bullet and have not had any separation issues that I am aware of. Not sure if the .430 diameter vs. .452 diameter has any bearing on it or if it is just an issue with the MAG TIP type itself, but I like the bullet!

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