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Africa Plains Game Hunt #199002 04/17/2019 12:13 PM
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I'm in the preliminary stages of planning an African Safari (Researching Outfitters) and since it's in the off-season, hopefully this will spark some conversation. I haven't nailed down exactly what I want to hunt yet, but do have several ideas. Being that I'll be on a poor-boy budget - I won't be able to hunt everything I'd like to. One of my thought's is a Spiral-Horn Slam: Kudu; Nyala; Eland; and Bushbuck. Other interest that are high on my list are; Gemsbok; Impala; Wildebeest (Blue and Black); Warthog; Zebra; Waterbuck; and Springbok. I wouldn't be against other animals of opportunity.

I'm interested in experiencing all the methods of hunting in Africa: Safari-style; spot-n-stalk; setting in blinds over waterholes...etc. I'm also planning on trying to video the hunt if possible - which I know will not be easy (my wife may take up my slack here). I'm primarily wanting to hunt with revolvers, but I'm not against carrying a single shot along. I have: 41 mag; 44 mag; 45 Colt; 454 Casull; 480 Ruger; and 475 Linebaugh calibers to choose from in revolvers. some of those are scoped, some red-dots, and some iron sights. In the encore platform I have 308 Winchester (2x7 burris)and 270 Winchester (4x12 burris) barrels.

With the given info, I'd love to hear recommendations/comments on outfitters you've used, recommendations on revolver/caliber, recommendations on encore calibers, along with bullets recommendations and preferred time of year to hunt.

I really value the veteran Africa hunters opinions here and look forward to a good discussion. Any helpful tips as far as getting guns into country or anything else I may have missed will also be greatly appreciated.

If there's bad experience you've encountered and don't want to post publicly, please PM me so as to steer clear of them.


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I can?t offer any advice, except to read Billa?s three-part story on his African hunt. It looked like a great time. Other than that, enjoy every minute from Planning to returning and telling us all about it! Most of us will never make that dream hunt, so make the most of every second!


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KRAL: JUST A QUICK POST, 1) YOUR ANIMAL LIST IS FULL OF HIGH DOLLAR ANIMALS, 2) LEAVE THE WATERBUCK AND WILDEBEEST FOR ANOTHER TIME, 3) MAKE SURE KUDU AND GEMSBOK ARE AVAILABLE ON YOUR HUNT, 4) IMPALA AND WARTHOGS ARE AFFORDABLE AND USUALLY AVAILABLE IN MOST PLACES, 5) FOR PLAINS GAME WITH HANDGUNS YOUR OPTIONS ARE PROBABLY SOUTH AFRICA AND MAYBE ZIMBABWE, 6) HUNTING FROM PERMANENT BLINDS IS NOT "TRADITIONAL" AFRICAN, HUNTING FROM "HIDES" MADE OUT OF/USING NATURAL BRUSH, SET UP AS AND WHEN REQUIRED, CAN BE "TRADITIOINAL". 7) OTHER THAN USING THE OCASSIONAL HIDE, YOU USUALLY DRIVE AROUND AND CAN EITHER SHOOT FROM THE VEHICLE OR GET OFF AND DO SPOT AND STALK, THE LATTER BEING MY FAVORITE, 8) MANY OF THE OUTFITTERS HUNT OTHER PEOPLE'S RANCHES, AND MORE THAN 1 OF THEM, AND 9) THERE ARE GUYS HERE THAT CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU GOOD REFERENCES, BASED UPON RECENT EXPERIENCES, FOR OUTFITTERS.


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Following this one closely.. I've got intentions to do the same in the coming few years time. Myself, I am most interested in Kudu & Gemsbok, maybe a Warthog, and possibly impala. That's as far as I got with my own list for Africa thus far.

Intend to do mine with my 41

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Kim, If South Africa is your destination, there are many, many outfitters marketing hunts. And the prices for game in SA are the lowest I've seen in a number of years. At the SCI Convention, I will guess there are 40-50 outfitters from SA alone. Most offer good hunting opportunities.

Only you can determine which animals turn your crank. My suggestion -- sell a kidney, rob a bank (Just kidding!) borrow money, deplete the kid's college fund, or whatever it takes to shoot all you possibly can.

Take whatever gun/guns you feel most comfortable shooting. Depending on your location or animals preferred, your shooting distance may vary.

Fair warning -- Africa is addictive. I've never used drugs but they may have been cheaper than 29 hunts in Africa!!

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JDK, thanks for the read reference, but I?m afraid I probably read every article and forum ever written on handgun hunting Africa....lol. Just hoping to get a good compilation of info here.

REY, thanks for the quick spill. Any particular reason you not suggest hunting waterbuck or wildebeest?


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Thanks for the advice, Mark. I'm intending to make what may be my one and only opportunity to hunt Africa, worth it. I'm thinking 6-8 animals, if possible.


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Good for you.... Wish I was going ? Get what you can. The last two times I went I had to have my revolvers scoped when applying for the permits. When I got there I removed them and installed the iron sights... The laws are always changing.. Go through a company like Air 2000...


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Kral, I think you are only allowed 2 handguns in South Africa, when I went you could take three. Also they must be scoped, can be a red dot, etc.
I wore a money belt with my money inside a plastic bag & the bag inside the money belt because of sweat. I also went to a SA bank & got one of each of the 5 SA bills so I could frame them. They have the big 5 animals on them, makes a nice "trophy" when put in a picture frame. Shoot a couple of extra animals, you'll be glad you did!!!

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For PH. No contest. Andrew Renton of Keiriverhuntingsafaris.co.za. I've been to him my last 4 times. Quality of game unreal. Over half of animals are top 15. The worst is $35. My Cape kudu is #2. He loves handgun hunters. His prices are very reasonable. Polite, kind man that gets respect from all land owners and staff. Accomodations excellent. Has access close to 1 million acres of hunting.
My next trip will be with him.
I've taken 3 handguns on each trip. That's till OK. I take 2 XPs and one revolver with scopes. Never a problem.
Spot and stalk is Andrew's preferred method in the East Cape- no fences there. Backpack, BogPOd with PSR, and offhand shots are used the most. The African wooden tripods are not handgunner friendly.

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I have been extremely happy with my safaris with bobby hansen safaris. He has a great property in south africa. Huge and likely wont need to ever leave it. If he knows youre on a budget he will find you some older animals that habe lots of character at a great price. Got my last cape buff under 5k and shot blue wildebeest for 400 bucks. Hes got great book animals if youre into that. Most of mine were gold medal animals and would be in the book. None of the animals you listed require a solid and so i would bring a 454 with swift a frames running hard and a single shot in case you cant get in close on some animals. He will hunt anyway you want. Here would be my list on a budget. Gemsbok, kudu, blue wildebeest, springbok, blesbok, impala, eland, ad an nyala as you can afford. They are beautiful. Bushbuck are fine as well. Ad a red hartebeest in there as well.

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Definitely consider Nyala!



I was also very happy with my outfitter, Tollie's African Safaris. He's very reasonably priced across the board, there is an abundance of game there, the food is off the charts fantastic, and he delivers.


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THIS IS GREAT NEWS KIM!!!! I'm so happy for you brother...Give em hell buddy


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Awesome. Good luck Kim. Can't wait to see the videos. I've watched everyone of yours on YouTube.


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In 2014 I did an Eastern Cape hunt with Andy Renton. Have to agree with WVHITMAN, he's a great PH for handgun hunters. He's a bow hunter and knows everything there is to know about how to stalk into range.

Whoever you choose as outfitter, make sure you use a meet & greet firearms permit service to walk you through the import process.

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Awesome Kim

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 Originally Posted By: KRal


REY, thanks for the quick spill. Any particular reason you not suggest hunting waterbuck or wildebeest?



KRAL: IF A WATERBUCK ISN'T 30 INCHES PLUS IT IS JUST ANOTHER ANTELOPE, YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING A 30 INCHER ON A HUNT WITH A BIG HIT LIST ARE REMOTE. THE WILDEBEESTS ARE JUST GOOFY, SPEND YOUR MONEY ON SOMETHING NICER, LIKE SPIRAL HORNS, OR A BIG, PRICEY SABLE.


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Good luck Kim.


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I am excited for you!

And I am looking forward to the pics and videos!

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I've not hunted them, but I like the look of the wildebeest. It would be a sharp looking mount IMO. That said, there are myriad beautiful animals in Africa. Why can't it be like the old days where you spend a year roaming the wilds and bring back hundreds of "specimens" !


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I saw Craig Boddington at an Annual NRA convention before I went over to Namibia. He was very helpful, and one piece of advice was really great. Wear your hunting boots over, or at least put in your carry-on luggage.

Your guns or ammo my get lost, but you can always borrow these. Same with clothing. I f lost can be replaced. BUT try finding a pair of boots that fit....good luck.

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Max, that Nyala is a beauty!

Ruger4570, that's some sound advice - thanks!

Trademark, thanks for the info. The 454 was actually my unspoken #1 pick - was just curious what other suggestions I might get. I'm not ruling out the proven A-frames, but I have good supply of 260 and 300gr Nosler Partitions that are wanting to play.

Which brings up another question - would the 260's over max dose of H110 be more desirable with the it's fast/flat shooting capability or the 300gr over max load of H110 with a little more weight and less velocity?

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I think either load would work fine but lean toward the 300.


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300 gr....if Eland is on the list...300 gr


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The eland I took was a big animal. For sure a 300... Otherwise for smaller plains the 260`s running fast will do the job. The last time I paid for hartebeest and buff but left Africa with a total of six animals..... Its amazing what you`ll see..


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 Originally Posted By: KRal
Max, that Nyala is a beauty!

Ruger4570, that's some sound advice - thanks!

Trademark, thanks for the info. The 454 was actually my unspoken #1 pick - was just curious what other suggestions I might get. I'm not ruling out the proven A-frames, but I have good supply of 260 and 300gr Nosler Partitions that are wanting to play.

Which brings up another question - would the 260's over max dose of H110 be more desirable with the it's fast/flat shooting capability or the 300gr over max load of H110 with a little more weight and less velocity?


BETWEEN A 260 AND A 300, FOR AFRICA, DEFINITELY GO WITH THE 300. IF YOU HIT THE ANIMAL ITS YOURS, AND YOU PAY FOR IT, EVEN IF IT IS NOT RECOVERED, SO WITH REVOLVERS YOU BETTER NOT TRY ANY LONG RANGE SHOOTING, 100 YARDS MAX, CLOSER TO FIFTY A LOT BETTER, AND AT THOSE RANGES A 30O GRAINER WILL SHOOT FLAT ENUFF.


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Max, that Nyala is a beauty!

Ruger4570, that's some sound advice - thanks!

Trademark, thanks for the info. The 454 was actually my unspoken #1 pick - was just curious what other suggestions I might get. I'm not ruling out the proven A-frames, but I have good supply of 260 and 300gr Nosler Partitions that are wanting to play.

Which brings up another question - would the 260's over max dose of H110 be more desirable with the it's fast/flat shooting capability or the 300gr over max load of H110 with a little more weight and less velocity?


BETWEEN A 260 AND A 300, FOR AFRICA, DEFINITELY GO WITH THE 300. IF YOU HIT THE ANIMAL ITS YOURS, AND YOU PAY FOR IT, EVEN IF IT IS NOT RECOVERED, SO WITH REVOLVERS YOU BETTER NOT TRY ANY LONG RANGE SHOOTING, 100 YARDS MAX, CLOSER TO FIFTY A LOT BETTER, AND AT THOSE RANGES A 30O GRAINER WILL SHOOT FLAT ENUFF.



Exactly!

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Kral,
There has been a load of good advice posted here. Experiences from perhaps 100 handgun safaris. I have only been there once but it was the greatest! As far as animals go, everyone has their opinion of course but being on a limited budget what I did was prioritize. My dream animal was Kudu, then Impala. After that I was flexible. I shot a Blesbok, Blue Wildebeest and 2 Warthogs. These 6 made for a great hunt. There are many other affordable options- Springbok, Reedbuck, Bushbuck, Gemsbuck. As far as the hunt goes, we did spot and stalk. The mountain top Kudu Hunt was awesome. I really enjoyed stalking Warthogs. The hunting was in thick cover and it reminded me of deer hunting in the US.
If I go again I will likely use the same outfitter - EAI Outdoors - But you should check out the others mentioned before you choose. In regards to overall cost consider your taxidermy carefully. Taxidermy can exceed your animal costs. One of the reasons I chose my outfitter is that they have an on site taxidermist. They take care of everything and I was happy with the results.
Here are a few key items I suggest:
-Use a service to get your guns through at the airport.
-Wear your hunting boots on the plane along with other must have items.
-Carry on what you can. Use your hunting backpack and a briefcase for your personal item.
-Pack as much as you can in your gun box. Binoculars, knives, rangefinder. I removed a layer of foam and put some clothes in the bottom. Get a good case. Airlines try hard not to lose guns!
-I also put my guns in zipper cases inside the gun box for extra protection
-Take your own shooting sticks. I used the traditional wooden (bamboo actually) but I planned for it and took a clamp on brace that I made for wrist support. It worked great. I practiced with it on wooden sticks for a year to get it right.
-Use heavy bullets for full penetration on your largest animal. All shots are center shoulder. I almost took a facing head shot on a feeding Warthog but he turned at the last minute.


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 Originally Posted By: billa

-Use heavy bullets for full penetration on your largest animal. All shots are center shoulder.


AMEN TO THE HEAVIER BULLETS, e.g, 300gr vs 260gr, AND AMEN TO CENTER SHOULDER! I SHOT AN IMPALA HEAD ON WITH A 375-06 JDJ, USING A SWIFT 250 AFRAME, AT WAY OVER 2,000fps, AND IT TOOK THE TRACKERS A LONGTIME TO FIND IT. MY EXPERIENCE WITH FRONTAL SHOTS IS USUALLY NOT TO MY SATISFACTION, WHILE MY EXPERIENCE WITH SHOULDER SHOTS, ESPECIALLY BROADSIDE, IS ROUTINELY EXCELLENT.


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Good information, gentlemen! I had pretty much decided on what I was going to carry and what bullets i was going to shoot, I just wanted to spark some good conversation. So far - so good.
For revolver selection, my main gun is probably going to be my FA M83 454 casull with 7.5" barrel topped with a 2.5x8 leupold. Probably going to be shooting a 300gr Nosler Partition over a max dose of H110. Haven't totally decided on belt gun yet, but one option is my FA M97 with 5.5" barrel topped with a jpoint reflex sight shooting a 260gr Nosler Partition over 18 or so grains of 2400. Thoughts?

Bill thanks for the great pointers. I'll be thinking a while on the taxidermy aspect. Deciding between having it done in Africa and shipped back, shipping back hide and skulls to have my taxidermist do it, or have it shipped back and doing it myself.
I'd love to here the pro's and con's from several different members on this.


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If your wife is going you could take another gun or 2 if you wish. When I went to SA it was a 2 gun limit and they were to be different cartridges. They may need to be in separate cases from the other 2.


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If your wife is going you could take another gun or 2 if you wish. When I went to SA it was a 2 gun limit and they were to be different cartridges. They may need to be in separate cases from the other 2.


That's something to think about! That hasn't crossed my mind, but very good idea. Thanks!


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If your wife is going you could take another gun or 2 if you wish. When I went to SA it was a 2 gun limit and they were to be different cartridges. They may need to be in separate cases from the other 2.


That's something to think about! That hasn't crossed my mind, but very good idea. Thanks!


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KRAL: GOOD CHOICE FOR THE MAIN GUN AND LOAD, CANNOT COMMENT ON THE 2400 LOAD FOR THE MODEL 97 (IN 45 COLT I GUESS?). I BELIEVE THE TAXIDERMY IS BETTER HERE THAN THERE. WHILE LESS EXPENSIVE THERE, IT COSTS MORE TO SHIP MOUNTED TROPHIES THAN HIDE, HORNS AND SKULLS. IF YOU CAN DO YOUR OWN TAXIDERMY, AND KNOW HOW A PARTICULAR MOUNT SHUD LOOK, GO FOR IT, JUST BECAUSE A GUY IS GOOD ON WHITETAILS DOESN'T MEAN HE KNOWS HOW THE DIFFERENT AFRICAN ANTELOPES SHUD LOOK.

AS A FIRST TIMER, YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT A TROPHY ("BOOK") ANIMAL SHUD LOOK LIKE. THE GUIDES ARE IN TO SELLING ANIMALS AND IF YOU ARE HAPPY WITH A NON-BOOK ANIMAL, THEY WILL PAT YOU ON THE BACK, TELL YOU "WELL DONE", TAKE A LOT OF PICTURES, AND YOU WILL END UP WITH THE EQUIVALENT OF AN OK YOUNG 8 POINT WHITETAIL ON YOUR WALL. BE CAREFUL, YOU SHUD INSIST THAT EVERY ANIMAL BE "BOOK" SIZE, AFTER ALL YOU ARE USUALLY PAYING THE SAME TROPHY FEE WHETHER IT MAKES BOOK OR NOT. NOW IF THEY TELL YOU IT IS A CULL, AND CHARGE ACCORDINGLY, THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE. GET THE SCI AFRICAN EDITION BOOK, IT WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IS BOOK FOR EACH ANIMAL, WHAT TO MEASURE, AND I BELIEVE THEY STILL HAVE A HANDGUN SECTION FOR MOST AFRICAN GAME. FOR YOUR TRIP COPY A FEW PAGES OUT OF THE BOOK FOR ANY ANIMAL YOU MAY WISH TO TRY AND TAKE, MAKES FOR A HANDY REFERENCE/STUDY GUIDE.


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Re: Africa Plains Game Hunt [Re: 45MAN] #199084 04/19/2019 7:45 PM
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Rey, yes it?s 45 colt. The 260 NP shoots extremely well in that gun. I think within 75 yards, that combo would work well. Should be putting that bullet out around 1300+FPS from the M97. Thanks for the SCI reference suggestion, I may have to check that out.


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Re: Africa Plains Game Hunt [Re: KRal] #199090 04/19/2019 10:13 PM
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That 45 colt will work ok for small stuff up close. These animals are tough and a marginal hit with marginal power makes for an expensive hike. Bobby hansen will only allow excellent examples or old animals to be taken. He almost would t let me shoot a 32? waterbuck. He knows after a few safaris i am truly happy with old worn animals with character so if theyre available then he will let me take them. He hates african buyers remorse. Every year he gets a couple 60? kudu. He has very very exceptional animals.

Re: Africa Plains Game Hunt [Re: tradmark] #199100 04/20/2019 4:08 AM
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 Originally Posted By: tradmark
That 45 colt will work ok for small stuff up close. These animals are tough and a marginal hit with marginal power makes for an expensive hike. Bobby hansen will only allow excellent examples or old animals to be taken. He almost would t let me shoot a 32? waterbuck. He knows after a few safaris i am truly happy with old worn animals with character so if theyre available then he will let me take them. He hates african buyers remorse. Every year he gets a couple 60? kudu. He has very very exceptional animals.


Thanks, Mark. Yeah, if the 45 got to play, it would be in an idea situation...i.e. on an Impala or similar sized and maybe sitting over a waterhole where shots could be close. The little M97 just doesn't play well with hot 45 colt loads - it gets really fussy, quick.


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Re: Africa Plains Game Hunt [Re: KRal] #199101 04/20/2019 5:50 AM
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Really, i always kinda wanted one but wasnt sure about how it did with the heavier loads. Thanks!

Re: Africa Plains Game Hunt [Re: tradmark] #199102 04/20/2019 6:30 AM
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 Originally Posted By: tradmark
Really, i always kinda wanted one but wasnt sure about how it did with the heavier loads. Thanks!


It shoots them well, but gets kinda lively. I've been shoot'n 250xtp's over 20gr 0f 2400 and it's manageable. It's just not as much to hold onto as with the M83.


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Re: Africa Plains Game Hunt [Re: Whitworth] #199109 04/20/2019 1:34 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
Definitely consider Nyala!



I was also very happy with my outfitter, Tollie's African Safaris. He's very reasonably priced across the board, there is an abundance of game there, the food is off the charts fantastic, and he delivers.


Max, What?s the detail on the equipment used on this beautiful Nyala?


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