Re: Amazing results
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Well done! Can you provide a bit more information on your rings? I have a DW in .357 Max I use for deer but I'm not all that happy with the B square mount I have on the gun now.
Thanks. jcp, Those are a discontinued set of Leupold rings that were made for the DW vent rib. There are a couple of Burris clamp-on rings sets for sale on e-bay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/clamp-to-vent-r...is/383226830038
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Re: Amazing results
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11/01/2019 7:50 AM
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Off topic, but l remember first seeing Colts new PYTHON HUNTER.
Still the most beautiful Hunting Handgun EVER!! With its 2x M8
Leupold mounted on the barrel... Target turret for elevation and
Colts Royal Blue on everything... All neatly packaged it an aluminum
Zero Haliburten Case.. Dan Wesson had nice cases too..
A GREAT purchase James.. Santa Clause doesn't live at the North Pole.
He lives on GunBroker
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Re: Amazing results
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11/01/2019 4:29 PM
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Reading this post kinda makes me question something...do y'all weigh Elk, Caribou, Moose, Pronghorn, Large Dangerous Domestic Bovines? Or is the concern just pigs?
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Re: Amazing results
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11/01/2019 4:39 PM
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I don?t have access to large game. So, I don?t have that opportunity. I weigh all deer/axis/pigs that are brought back to the barn for processing.
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Re: Amazing results
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11/01/2019 4:47 PM
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Reading this post kinda makes me question something...do y'all weigh Elk, Caribou, Moose, Pronghorn, Large Dangerous Domestic Bovines? Or is the concern just pigs? I try whenever possible, more or less or confirm my estimates.
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Re: Amazing results
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I think estimates are all really anyone can do....I think weighing and measuring everything takes some of the fun out of it and completely unnecessary
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Re: Amazing results
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After you've killed a certain number of animals like deer or elk you start to get a pretty good idea of what they weigh bu if it's something you've never taken before it can be hard to guesstimate what a certain animal weighs.
I've only taken 3 feral hogs so they were hard for me to judge but the guys with me could nail it pretty close as proven by weighing them later at the house. I was off 30-50 lbs.
I killed a really big muley buck once & we had to cut him in half cross ways to get him loaded on the horses. After cutting the head & neck off I took just the front half to a butcher shop to be made into jerky & salami. That front half weighed 80 lbs.
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Re: Amazing results
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I think estimates are all really anyone can do....I think weighing and measuring everything takes some of the fun out of it and completely unnecessary Information is knowledge. Part of the fun for me. 😁
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Re: Amazing results
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realistically there would be some pretty steamed up guides if I told them to get undressed bear, moose or other animals I taken to be weighed on a scale... no different with a pig...
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Re: Amazing results
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Remote locations for big game...........of course. Let?s be real. That?s a given.
Without antlers or horns, about all one has to brag about on a pig are tusks or weight. I still contend that many pigs are misjudged on the side of too heavy. Some grossly so. I also believe that some (not all) outfitting locations want a hunter to feel that his pig is bigger than it really is because it can boost their bookings with pictures and tales of huge monster ?Russian Bar?.
I?m not pointing fingers at any hunter here. Just saying..........the internet is full of 400-500 pound ?Russian Boar? kills that well............maybe ain?t quite so gargantuan.
Not many wild feral pigs get that big. Though it does occur in locations with lots of agg or food.
Pen raised for release (I?ve seen those operations) and mixed domestic/wild breeds that are also ?pen raised?, can get quite large.
Not arguing or trying to start one. I just know when many hunters claim a 400 pounder.........it probably wasn?t weighed.
Oh well, if it makes?em feel better. Have at it. 😎
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Re: Amazing results
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11/01/2019 7:19 PM
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Reading this post kinda makes me question something...do y'all weigh Elk, Caribou, Moose, Pronghorn, Large Dangerous Domestic Bovines? Or is the concern just pigs? I try whenever possible, more or less or confirm my estimates. 👍🏻👍🏻
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Re: Amazing results
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Not arguing or trying to start one. I just know when many hunters claim a 400 pounder.........it probably wasn?t weighed. Zee, I completely agree... When I first started taking boar I would OVER estimate the weight by a large number.. The more I took the more I would guesstimate closer to the actual but still find them one of the hardest game animals to judge.. re-reading your post I see you work with them and always weigh so I can especially see where if someone say`s they shot a 400 pounder you take it with a "grain"...
This has been a terrific "sharing of knowledge" on boar.. Thanks Max for bringing up the subject...
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Re: Amazing results
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Not arguing or trying to start one. I just know when many hunters claim a 400 pounder.........it probably wasn?t weighed. Zee, I completely agree... When I first started taking boar I would OVER estimate the weight by a large number.. The more I took the more I would guesstimate closer to the actual but still find them one of the hardest game animals to judge.. I feel if I?m within 25 pounds.........I did pretty damn good. Depending on sow/boar and muscle density............anything less than 35-45 pounds error is pretty good. Because of that, I tend to break them up into 25lb estimates. Meaning, I?ll estimate by 25 pounds what a pig weighs. 225 250 275 300 Etc. Then I?ll weigh them and see if I?m at least within a 25 pound margin of error. The further I have to drag them to the truck...........the more they seem to weigh!!! Until I scale them. 😳
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Re: Amazing results
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Thanks Max for bringing up the subject...
I didn't bring it up.
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Re: Amazing results
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The 25lb estimates sounds like the way to go when judging weight....
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Re: Amazing results
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Well, you should see some of the bass I catch -- lots of 10 - 12 pounders
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Re: Amazing results
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I ask what that one might weigh because I've only taken 3 & most of you are much more savvy about hogs than I am. When it comes to deer, antelope, elk or half a dozen moose I'm a little more qualified because I've had to lift or help lift a whole bunch of them onto the horse or mules. You get a pretty good idea what they weigh when you're picking them up & loading them on a pack saddle. This is the best way to load half an elk on a stock saddle, no tie downs, not even a single piece of rope. Dick
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Re: Amazing results
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Believe me guys, I understand skepticism. I'm probably one of the most skeptical people on planet earth...LOL......if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. When it comes to pigs, I always compare the size of the animal to the size of the person who is posing with it and also, I compare the the animal to the size of the gun.......
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