I've been thinking about some 38+p loads to just play with and wondered if there was an application for Lil Gun. Some research on the web showed me that others had the same idea and the results were impressive. One guy was getting over 1100 fps from a 160 grain pill over 12 grains of Lil Gun. Another guy swore 13 grains was the way to go. Both loads were hot but showed no signs of pressure problems. I've got plenty of 357 brass for hot loads but just want to play with the 38's.