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325 WSM Revolver #55295 09/07/2009 12:33 AM
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A couple weekends ago, I was up Grice's in Clearfield PA. I saw a single action revolver that had a tag stating it was 325 WSM. It looked like it had an 8 inch barrel. At the time, I thought it was a Magnum Research BFR. After consulting their website, they don't advertise the BFR in this configuration.

I know it could have been mislabeled. Has anyone heard of a configuration like this ?

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I haven't heard of it but it would be possible to convert a long cylinder BFR but I think it would be more trouble than it's worth.


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i have not heard if it in a handgun but a long gun and the
recoil is awful in a rifle so a pistol would very bad.
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I highly doubt they had it labeled correctly (or doubt the sanity of the person that had the cylinder cut for it) as the back pressure causes the cases to set back and bind the cylinder, or worse. I know they were/are chambering them in some of the lower pressure bottle neck rounds like 30-30 and I heard possibly .375 JDJ, but nothing bottle neck with higher pressure than a contender.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr_precision.asp

The website mentions some of the non-standard calibers their Precision Center will cut, but none of the bottle necks are listed???

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I called Grice's to inquire about this mystery revolver. They could not tell me anything. An email from Magnum Research confirms they never made the BFR in 325 WSM. I know what I saw though.

I was only there to get a 30-06 Encore Pistol barrel.

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Is anyone making a single action in 327 Federal Magnum? If so, whoever put the tag on the gun may have had the other round on his mind when he labeled it.


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 Originally Posted By: pab1
Is anyone making a single action in 327 Federal Magnum? If so, whoever put the tag on the gun may have had the other round on his mind when he labeled it.


That was my thought as well. He said it looked like it could be a BFR so that would be much overkill ;-)


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Freedom makes a 327 in their M97 frame.


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USFA now advertises a 327 Fed. in a handsome ADJUSTABLE sighted revolver. Looks like it might be a hunter! Expensive, though.

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I have a 325 WSM in a HSPrecision 2000P handgun, with the brake it is very manageable. Ii have not heard of a revolver in that caliber. I would think it would be an unsafe proposition in a cylinder gun due to the pressures.
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Ain't no way.

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I agree w/500WE. Besides if that unicorn/fairy did exist. Why?

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I hope youare talking about the revolver cause here is my 325 WSM in a HSP handgun & it packs a wallop on both ends.
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Thread originator: I knew someone had a 325 WSM Handgun !

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Nmhunter, is that a rifle scope on that machine? If so, how do you keep it out of your eye?


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Nmhunter, is that a rifle scope on that machine? If so, how do you keep it out of your eye?


Yes. Good muzzle brakes!! I used a NF on my antelope hunt and the X was chambered in 7mm WSM. A good brake and backing off from a full FOV will keep your complexion safe!!


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Nmhunter, is that a rifle scope on that machine? If so, how do you keep it out of your eye?


Yes. Good muzzle brakes!! I used a NF on my antelope hunt and the X was chambered in 7mm WSM. A good brake and backing off from a full FOV will keep your complexion safe!!


That's super cool! If you don't mind me axing, what brake is that? It must be very effective.


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Yep, it is a Leupold Mark 4, 4.5x14. I am able to get a full field of view up to 8x. the rest of the power I get about a half field of view. The muzzle brake from HSP does a very good job of keeping the recoil down. I am shooting full house loads with 180gr BT's @2700-2720 fps. Accuracy is excellent at around one half " for three shots. this is my go to elk gun. ( hope to blood it this next year here in AZ if I get drawn)
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 Originally Posted By: nmhunter
I hope youare talking about the revolver cause here is my 325 WSM in a HSP handgun & it packs a wallop on both ends.
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Obviously, it will work fine in an XP or other suitable bolt action. The OP was asking and talking about a revolver.

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Knowing what a .325 WSM is now, I know it would not qualify as a revolver caliber easily. I still know what I saw, and I wish I would have got to the bottom of the mislabled revolver in the display case that day.

Knowing that a 600 Nitro Express can be made into a revolver, I know that 325 WSM revolver could be made. It is definitely something that could be done; it just would not be a practical revolver.

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The 600 NE revolver costs about $20,000 and weighs about 15 lbs (?) as I recall. Hardly in the BFR category.

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That 325 wsm has to kick like a pissed off mule. Iv got a 300 wsm in a long gun that kicks unreal. Cant imagine in a pistol.


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If T/C will not chamber the WSM series in the Encore because of pressure considerations, imaging the size of a cylinder designed to hold five 325 WSM rounds (5 enncore chambers worth). As stated before, not happening.


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 Quote:
imaging the size of a cylinder designed to hold five 325 WSM rounds


It would be like the revolver that Red uses in the movie Hell Boy ;-)

There ain't no way, gotta be a 327.


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Weather or not that this revolver exists, or could be built to exist. Its way beyond my limitations, firing a 180 grain bullet at 2700 fps!!! in a handgun, is to much for me.

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Its way beyond my limitations, firing a 180 grain bullet at 2700 fps!!! in a handgun, is to much for me.


If it ever existed in a revolver then I agree.

You need to try that in a single shot w/ a proper brake.....it's a pussycat. My 7mmWSM XP shoots a 162gr at 2800+ and recoils like a .38 Special. And my .338JDJ#2 Contender shoots a 180NBT at 2500+ w/ no brake...it's easy to shoot.


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
That 325 wsm has to kick like a pissed off mule. Iv got a 300 wsm in a long gun that kicks unreal. Cant imagine in a pistol.


It is really not that big of a deal with a good muzzle brake.


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Ernie Iv got a good muzzle brake on a 30-06 Lone eagle after about 5 shots on the bench Im done. 325 wsm never even crossed my mind when you say its no big deal Im impressed. Im not trying my wrist doesnt like me now. When someone told me speed kills I thought they meant out the front.

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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
Ernie Iv got a good muzzle brake on a 30-06 Lone eagle after about 5 shots on the bench Im done. 325 wsm never even crossed my mind when you say its no big deal Im impressed. Im not trying my wrist doesnt like me now. When someone told me speed kills I thought they meant out the front.


A factor I didn't mention is the weight of your SP.
Your LE is a lot lighter than the XP I spoke of.
What brake do you have?
My 7mm Dakota and my soon to be 338 Lapua Improved will use powder amounts from 75-100 grains of powder with bullets from 180-300 grains. Again, weight and the best brakes made are being utilized. Yes, I use riflescopes on these SP's


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Iv got the Lone eagle brake but it has been modified. Is a XP or H-S better. You got me wondering cant belive Im even thinking about this. Hope wifes aim is not getting any better. How can you get eye relief on a rifle scope?


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Read this and then keep asing questions.
http://www.handgunhunt.com/promo/membership/features/readNewArticle.php?oid=12&title=Rifle Scopes On Specialty Handguns


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Ernie 200 yd shot here is a long shot. Would a Rifle scope be werth the effort on learning to use? Also have you shot a H-S? And you thought about them.
I still cant belive Im even thinking this.


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H-S pistols are basically a customized XP-Nice rigs.
IF the LEr scopes irritate you because of small FOV and critical eye relief a rifle scope may be in your future.
Why you would use a riflescope for those distances would be purely personal preference.


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Im going to mount one right after deer season give it a try. Send you pictures if the scope wins.


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
I still cant belive Im even thinking this.


OH YES, the hook is set, now just real him in!!! LOL<LOL
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I have a 20X rifle scope on a 243 Striker. It works great for the small woodchucks out to 200+ yards. When I deer hunt I turn the scope down to about 8~10 power for out to 200 yards. If I need more power I can turn it up.


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You ever feel like your going to get it you just dont know where from. The gun will get my head my wife my ***. And I spend money for this and I LIKE IT


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You guys set the hook. I bought a H-S 300 wsm with H-S break. Iv got a Luepy mark 4 ordered. My buddys have a pool going how many shots until the gun wins. I pulled the trigger the other night this thing kicks. The guy I bought it from shot it twice and he was done.Ok Tigger and Ernie you can laugh now(I KNOW SUCKER)


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
You guys set the hook. I bought a H-S 300 wsm with H-S break. Iv got a Luepy mark 4 ordered. My buddys have a pool going how many shots until the gun wins. I pulled the trigger the other night this thing kicks. The guy I bought it from shot it twice and he was done.Ok Tigger and Ernie you can laugh now(I KNOW SUCKER)


First, congrats on the H-S! Hope you got a good deal on it.
I do not think that the H-S brake is nearly the brake that the Holland Radial is. It does not have nearly the surface area of Holland's IMO. A good brake makes all the difference. Also, once you get the scope on there, you will be adding weight, therefore less perceived recoil.
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do you know if I have to send the gun to Hollans Radial to have the break installed? This thing is 2 handfulls. Do you put 3 or 4 rings on your scopes.


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
do you know if I have to send the gun to Hollans Radial to have the break installed? This thing is 2 handfulls. Do you put 3 or 4 rings on your scopes.


You can send it to Hollands or you can have a competent smith install it locally if you have one.
I use two rings on all of mine, and I typically use a picatinny rail for the base (Weaver style).
Talk to Darrel and he will set you up. Make sure to get the Radial brake and not the original quick discharge.
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Thank you for the information. Im going to mount the scope and shoot it a few times. If the recoil is still to bad I will Talk to Darrel. Thank You so much for your time and help.

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Ken,
Glad to help.
I went ahead and gave Holland's call, and told them you may be calling. They have put quite a few brakes on specialty handguns.


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You people are flat out nuts! Wish I lived near you so I could watch though. Curosity killed the cat?

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Ernie is a bad influnice or a expensive one. Havent figured that one out yet. I use the fireman motto on these big thumpers. Fire, duck and roll.


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 Originally Posted By: BINGO
You people are flat out nuts! Wish I lived near you so I could watch though. Curiosity killed the cat?


If you make it out this way, I will not only let you watch, I will let you get behind several of these rigs and shoot them yourself.
We will start at 400-500 yards and work our way out from there.


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 Originally Posted By: Ernie
[We will start at 400-500 yards and work our way out from there.



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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
Ok Tigger and Ernie you can laugh now(I KNOW SUCKER)


No laughing here, WELCOME to the fold!!!

Just take your time and work into it slowly, the fun will come quickly.
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Ok guys how many black eyes before you figured this out. I shot 3 times and hit my shooting glasses twice. Wife loves it says she doesnt have to beat me the gun will.Something about pay back.
I did shot a pretty good group.First time in a long time shooting had my heart raceing.


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
Ok guys how many black eyes before you figured this out. I shot 3 times and hit my shooting glasses twice. Wife loves it says she doesnt have to beat me the gun will.Something about pay back.
I did shot a pretty good group.First time in a long time shooting had my heart raceing.


Good groups and the heart racing, YUP hooked and landed. COOL! The break will make a big difference and you will have a better FOV and not get the black eye.


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
Ok guys how many black eyes before you figured this out. I shot 3 times and hit my shooting glasses twice. Wife loves it says she doesnt have to beat me the gun will.Something about pay back.
I did shot a pretty good group.First time in a long time shooting had my heart raceing.


What scope at what magnification?
Did you see a full field of view and then pull back (safety margin) before you pulled the trigger?
I think Holland's Radial brake would give you a lot more safety margin.
Congrats on the good group, and no black eyes on my side.


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luepy Mark 4 4.5X14 on 10. I think im still wanting FOV forgot to move back. It only tapped my glasses a little. Still a little different


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
luepy Mark 4 4.5X14 on 10. I think im still wanting FOV forgot to move back. It only tapped my glasses a little. Still a little different


Couple of things will allow you to see a almost or full FOV:
Better brake.
When you go prone, the dirt will not be slick like a bench top, which will also hinder rearward movement.


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My 243 Striker is not braked and I have to move my head back about 6" total from the scope to be in the safe zone. The FOV closes in to about half of the tube diameter. At first it's a little confusing and dificult to do. Practice makes perminant.

When I'm hunting charlies I carry the scope on 8 or 10X. When I spot a charlie I will get set up and find the charlie with full field of view, then dial the power up to 20. Draw my head back and squeeze the trigger. Total time from seeing the charlie to firing the gun is less than 10 seconds.


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OH WOW!!! I hadn't been back on here in a while. The 325 thing really took off, Welcome to the dark side(HS shooters) BFR, where did you find the 300 WSM? HS hasn't made that many of them!!! I am a little partial to the HS guns( what ya think Ernie)How about a pic or two of it? I have now gone to all Mark 4's (4.5x14) on my HS's as well most have the Holland reticle. The HS brake does not work as well as the Holland bake. My shooting glasses have a few half moons on them as well from being "kissed" by the scope. By the way what part of KY? That is my home state born and raised there. usually make it back there for deer season but this year it just wasn't in the cards.
another thought , you ought to join the group of hangunners next fall in WY, a bunch of us meet in Casper and chase antelope for a week. That 300 would work just fine for those long shots.

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Iv been to busy messing with it, to take pictures. Looks just like the one on here same color and all. I bought it at a gun show in Nashville, TN. nmhunter where are you from in KY? Shot the gun 6 times last night 2 groups less than 3/4" at 100yds. No scope marks starting to get the hang of it. Look thru back up squeeze trigger not that hard. yea right. I live in the western part down by Paducah. Use to live in Louisville. When do you guys go to Casper? Going to have to work on funds buying to many guns. This one was not in the plan.


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Im saving for a holland break(hiding from wife). I will try to get you pictures tonight. Let me know on Casper.


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
When do you guys go to Casper? Going to have to work on funds buying to many guns. This one was not in the plan.

End of Sept-early Oct. Email me ernieemily@yahoo.com
I also had a SP come up that wasn't planned-Price was to good to pass up. It is a 6.5 Winchester Short Magnum on a BAT action/Krieger barrel




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Now thats what im talking about. One fine gun.


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
Now thats what im talking about. One fine gun.


Thanks!
I will be getting it and the 338AX at about the same time_I must confess, I am a little giddy


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You win Im done. Got to save I feel a trip comming on.


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Nice garden stake Ernie!!
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It looks a little bit "girly" to me.
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barrels to long , may need a "HAKSAW Job"
I am from Hopkins CO (madisonville) originally. moved away several years ago but still have family owned farms around Hanson KY. Deer herd is down somewhat this year due to the ice storms and the blue tongue disease a couple of years ago. My daughter lives on KY lake just out of Benton now . THe trip to Casper is a blast. send me an PM with contact info and I will send you a bunch of lieterature on the hunt.
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Hey guys any of you having wrist problems. Shot a couple of shots last night with my lone eagle 30-06 and thumb went numb and so did trigger finger. Iv been shooting big thumpers alot lately. nmhunter sent PM


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Ross typically builds his SP's with barrels longer than 18".
But I just can't bring myself to cut the barrel down when it has less than 200 rounds through it.

The Lone Eagle is a fairly light weight SP, and the 06 can have some noticeable recoil. Again, a good muzzle brake will surely help.
Also, you might give yourself a little break if your hand/wrist area is aggravated.


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I guess thats 2 muzzle breaks Iv got to get.


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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
I guess that's 2 muzzle breaks Iv got to get.


If you are not going it use it (Lone Eagle) that much, then, maybe not.
If you want to use it more, then for sure YES!


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This thread moved on me. Ernie tell your buddy at the muzzle break place might be a little while. Found a h-s in 7mm br trying to buy. Then its muzzle break time.


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