Gary a lot of game dept. dont know a damn thing about anything it looks to me. promote handgun hunting all we can it can only help. i use to shoot I.H.M.S.A. people that have never done much with a handgun but def. training look at you like ya got two heads when ya talk about the distance. people see j-frame 38spl in their minds eye when someone says handgun, not a contender/big bore revolver. hunting with a snub nose??? lets get some of those cowboy action shooter on board or anyone else.