You guys are tough! Just because a fella owns a bunch of handguns doesn't mean he knows how to shoot them!! I think it was "MePlat" that stated to Ernie one time regarding his long range PD shooting...it went something like this..."if you throw enough lead in the air you are bound to hit something." That's not an exact quote but I think it is close! I shoot a lot and only show you guys the good results...