My favorite tender barrel is a 30 herrett. I also like shooting the 35 rem. Both will reach oit and smack deer at 150 yards. Dont reload? Then the 30-30 is great in the 14". With spire points, the 30 caliber is hard to beat. The 35 likes 180 grain hornys spire point made for the single shot. Right now, with the ammo, gun grab, bullets and brass maybe next to possible to find