if i may, let me clarify. i got this finish machined frame and parts set and the rough casting from Stephen Webb. i have enough parts minus a few small parts and one cylinder for two guns. Stephen was going to sell this with parts to make an improved no5 express. after thinking really hard about it, all i really want is an improved no5 that i can shoot and hunt with and not feel guilty about actually using. as he said when i told him what i want "after Alan gets done with it, it will be better than what came out of TLA originally."