Thanks for the input guys, I give my 6.5 jdj to a dear friend and have been looking to replace it.. I have taken one deer with this round out of the AR platform with noslers 85gr e-tip, worked really while. the buck took 3 steps on its hind legs and fell over dead. you don't see much about it in the handgun world. I thought it might be a good choice since it was designed for the 16in barreled AR's