Yeah TN, that is my go-to load. But I'm needing and increase in magnification. I have the 2.5-8x32 now, and at 300 yards, it is maxed out-- in my hands anyway. I don't want another scope that is going to max out 300. If I change it out, I want something capable of 500. Don't know that it is a practical "hunting" distance, but I want to know what the gun, and cartridge, can do. At this point, I know a 8x scope isn't going to help me. 8X gets me 300 yards, and I have that already.

I do fine out to the 300 yard mark, but at 400, I can't see it. And I'll be honest with you guys-- I don't trust anything but Leupold scopes. They are the ONLY scope that has never failed me. EVER.

So if I need to change brands, you're gonna have to be convincing.