Cottonstalk , nice job on "rodeo doe"! I'd like to know about the XTP's performance if recovered. Did it expand at 38Special fps? Noted that you don't advocate another try, BUT,would you (given same chance / opportunity again) think a hardcast flatnose slug may have a different effect on "rodeo" events? I'm curious as I've been playing w/ 38/44 loadings the past few years,as I've accumulated so much 38 brass, although these only see use in magnum guns. I don't target shoot rather I do what I call "hunting practice" w/ my handguns. By this I mean after I'm dialed in from bench/load work, I shoot from a variety of field rests I use. I rarely ever take offhand shots anymore. When you see me afield I could pass as a African guide/porter/gunbearer ! I never leave the truck w/out as of late a BogPod & a stool . I practice at my local range w/ the same equipment, rifle or handgun. Expansion tests some time ago opened my eyes to some cartridge capabilities/shortfalls. So always open to other shooters field experiences. Oh , I've performed in a few deer rodeos in the past, but that's another story !! Later ,, cont35bb.