So, lemme ask you ryan, what caliber wouldnt be a stunt? Would a 458 lott? Would a 454? Its all in the bullets guys. The ph i shot mine with took a shot with the 458 lott. Bullet came apart and it penetrated less than a foot. My EXPANDABLE 325gr aframe thru the shoulders and the buff was down with one shot. Now i would argue that razor dobbs shooting a gun that would penetrate to the offside shoulders reliably is less of a stunt than an "appropriate" safari caliber with crummy bullets!