Worst I ever had was an old, original Contender in a short, light 44mag bbl. The other one was a FA83 in 454 Casull with a 3"bbl and no ejector rod. They call it the "Packer". It was one of the coolest little back-up guns I ever carried here in Alaska, but that thing did nothing but hurt. I've shot .500 Linebaughs on a SBH frame that didn't hurt that bad.