For all of you denouncing the Bisley, I have to ask one question. Have any of you shot anything with meaningful recoil like a .475 or any of the .500s (not loaded with light bullets) with a plow handle grip (dragoon, XR3, XR3-RED, etc.)? It's one miserable cuss under heavy recoil. There is a very good reason Ruger didn't even consider one of the plow handle-style grips for their new .454 and .480 Super Blackhawks.