True statement james but i would add that despite a little less penetration theres some expandables that i trust as much as many fmj or monometal solids. Its true a swift aframe or barnes xbp may not penetrate as far as one of them. But the damage is a significant step up. It breaks handgun hunting dogma, but with the monometals, fmj's and punch bullets along with the above mentioned expandables it shifts the game a bit to favor having increased velocity ads to the wound channel and penetration.