I really hope some good shooter show their groups. I'm fairly new to shooting revolvers, started again after many years away from them. I find that I can shoot better than 2" groups at 50 yards with a S&W 617 .22 and a S&W 686 .357 both with 6" barrels and 3 mil dot red dot sights. I'm sure these guns can do better, I remember reading in the past that some hand gunners considered the .44 Magnum to be one of the most accurate of the big bores.