Living vicariously thru my buddy: he scored with his 460 using HSM 454 Bear Loads. Same gun I posted previously with scope issue being max'ed out for elevation. He plans to get the rings with inserts after the season is over to allow 460 loads to be used. The shot was approximately 80 yards and a little back but still got both lungs. Slight quarter to and the S&W PC 460 XVR using a short bi-pod delivered. Doe went about 50 yards. I was extremely excited for him and am now sure he is hooked - i told him he might as well sell his rifles! Picture when I can get it uploaded.