Agreed Pa. Mike.. The same 'expert' logic applies to the 458Win Mag.

As a Dangerous Game ctg most African hunters feel a 458 is marginal past 50yds.

Yet in other circles a 45-70 is considered a ''1000 yard gun''.

There are even organized 1000yd shoots for the 45-70... A ctg that has

barely half the velocity with a third of the energy as a 458Win Mag