By the way...I have hunted all over North America, with bow, handgun, and rifle, but my African trip (page 4 of this thread) was courtesy of a raffle at an outdoor show! You can also pick up good deals at many of the Elk Foundation banquets, Sheep foundation, and Safari Club, at some of the auctions. My hunt was free for 3 animals, so I extended it to 10 days, 5 animals, as well as taking one of my sons (who paid for his own animals after 3....man, he loved it, and had it "in the budget"...! So, it can be done, and with the cost of hunts in the US now, it can be reasonable. JUST DON'T FLY THROUGH THE NETHERLANDS WITH GUNS....CAN BE A BIG PROBLEM. We flew direct to Africa, which can be done via New York or Atlanta easily.