yep like a 1000 yards to far for sure. I would rather see them tip over but that crappy hit made it impossible. persistence pays off. I was taught by an old mentor of mine to never give up on a track if you had a blood trail. even if they were 20 yards apart. this guy was a local deer hunting legend and was the guy everyone who hit a deer and couldn't find it would call. he found deer that others gave up on. I have seen some pretty good trackers in my travels and he was one of the best.