wapitirod, I have a CVA Hawkins pistol that I used to run 90grns of Goex FFG, 490 patched round ball, #11 RWS cap. Might as well been throwing rock blind folded. Backed it down to 60grns and at 10 yards I could consistently split the ball on a axe head, and knock over steel targets at 50 & 75 yards. Got too lazy to clean it so I haven't shot it in years. Got more time in my life now think I'll have to dig that old bird out.